Comments on: Where is the outcry?

By: Bruno

Bruno — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:59:53 +0000

The policy seems pretty “not dead” to me at this juncture. Sure, it’s likely it’ll die sometime, but the deeply, deeply homophobic military establishment is fighting tooth and nail. I’m not expecting McCain to remove his filibuster threat just yet, not until he’s re-elected.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:09:49 +0000

Jaft,

Sorry ’bout that. It’s fixed now.

By: Jaft

Jaft — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:05:01 +0000

Tim, the first link sends me to a log in page for BTB.

By: customartist

customartist — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:02:18 +0000

I’m hearing much pundit commentary today (Sunday) on TV about Islamophobia in America, and with every comment, for and against, all I can do is to relate these sentiments to Homophobia.

The hype about the building of the Mosque near Ground Zero has been all worked up by political factions, just like gay rights during past elections.

We are not important, right now, but let DOMA, DADT, and ENDA approach the Supreme Court and we will see vocal resurgence of Southern Evangelicals, Mormons, Catholics, etc. with loud rhetoric.

By: ebohlman

ebohlman — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:24:48 +0000

Also, Republicans may have learned a lesson from this year’s success of the Conservatives in the UK. The Tories’ embrace of homophobia in the 80s and 90s was widely considered to be one of the reasons they eventually lost power. They kicked the homophobes out of the party and ran lots of openly gay candidates, and won.

By: grantdale

grantdale — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 04:46:14 +0000

Where’s the outcry? More pointedly, why is there no outcry right now.

I suspect, and wish I didn’t have too in this day and age, that Teh Uppity Gay will return to a central scaremongering role as soon as Teh Uppity Neegra theme runs its course.

(/breathlessly “Have you hud?, not even born ‘murican and is one of them commie mooselims!”)

Social attitudes, from the wrong side, are shifting; but not that quickly. This suggests something else is at work… for the time being. I’ll go with Emily K on this: wait and see.

ps re the lack of comment: McCain was too busy watching the installation of a tannoy on his front porch on the day. Everyone eventually reaches an age when the pesky local kids seem more of an danger to life and limb than the imminent collapse of the whole of Western Civilisation. Also, about the story, when I was wearing an onion on my belt, which was the fashion in those da..ay..zzzzz Zzzz zzz…

By: Emily K

Emily K — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 02:04:12 +0000

I’m waiting for when the big decisions roll down from higher courts. THEN we’ll see some outcry.

If not, THEN we’ll know something has truly shifted.

By: johnathan

johnathan — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 01:57:50 +0000

I would guess it is more or less due to two things (at least) — both of which, in the Republican political election mind-set must play hand-in-hand to be successful to electing their candidates:

(1) GLBT families are becoming more and more visible and, thus more and more acceptable within American mainstream societal values.

(2) Due to #1, the social stigmatization of gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and transsexual Americans by the Republican political establishment during the election time will not appeal to these mainstream American “independent” voters. It is these “independent” voters the Republican political candidates need to win, and IMO, the reason politicians have been silent over GLBT-related issues.

Do I expect to hear our community slammed by anti-gay politicians to placate the rabid social conservatives after the elections? In the words of Sarah Palin: “You betcha!”

By: cooner

cooner — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 01:48:30 +0000

No outcry, and yet Republicans are still obstructing the passage of the “must-pass” military bill with the DADT repeal compromise added to it, and Democrats are still too spineless and self-defeating to press harder for it.

Hard to tell sometimes how much things change vs. how much things stay the same.

By: Rob San Diego

Rob San Diego — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 00:23:16 +0000

I think we’re in the Star Trek alternate universe. I’m seeing more and more people wearing goatees. But your right, zero backlash and don’t forget that there was no backlash over prop 8 being overturned.