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	<title>Comments on: Tea Party Express Leader Denies Social Issues Are Part Of Agenda</title>
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	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
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		<title>By: Pat Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/09/17/26308/comment-page-1#comment-79623</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 03:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Monkey God&quot; eh .... Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the same &quot;God&quot;.  But I would not expect Williams to know or care about that.  PS They can&#039;t all be right but they could all be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Monkey God&#8221; eh &#8230;. Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the same &#8220;God&#8221;.  But I would not expect Williams to know or care about that.  PS They can&#8217;t all be right but they could all be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/09/17/26308/comment-page-1#comment-78852</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The TP movement is exclusively libertarian in philosophy however there will be those in the TP that might have opinions that are beyond the realm of the Tea Party and more of the James Dobson variety.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually this is as factually inaccurate as saying that the TEA Party movement is nothing more than a front for the social cons.  It isn&#039;t a monolithic movement but instead is composed of hundreds of separate groups, some are social con and others are libertarian.  I&#039;ve seen both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The TP movement is exclusively libertarian in philosophy however there will be those in the TP that might have opinions that are beyond the realm of the Tea Party and more of the James Dobson variety.</i></p>
<p>Actually this is as factually inaccurate as saying that the TEA Party movement is nothing more than a front for the social cons.  It isn&#8217;t a monolithic movement but instead is composed of hundreds of separate groups, some are social con and others are libertarian.  I&#8217;ve seen both.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pepa said &quot;YOU cannot prove that the entire movement is anti-gay like how the FRC is.&quot;.

Its pretty pathetic when you have to cling to the fact that there are a handful of people in the tea party that aren&#039;t homophobic - the VAST majority are:

http://michiganmessenger.com/36668/straight-pride-shirts-at-tea-party-rally-draw-fire

The connection comes as a new University of Washington poll found that of those Americans who supported the Tea Party movement...Only 36 percent think gay and lesbian couples should be allowed to adopt children, and just 17 percent are in favor of same-sex marriage.”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pepa said &#8220;YOU cannot prove that the entire movement is anti-gay like how the FRC is.&#8221;.</p>
<p>Its pretty pathetic when you have to cling to the fact that there are a handful of people in the tea party that aren&#8217;t homophobic &#8211; the VAST majority are:</p>
<p><a href="http://michiganmessenger.com/36668/straight-pride-shirts-at-tea-party-rally-draw-fire" rel="nofollow">http://michiganmessenger.com/36668/straight-pride-shirts-at-tea-party-rally-draw-fire</a></p>
<p>The connection comes as a new University of Washington poll found that of those Americans who supported the Tea Party movement&#8230;Only 36 percent think gay and lesbian couples should be allowed to adopt children, and just 17 percent are in favor of same-sex marriage.”.</p>
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		<title>By: pepa</title>
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		<dc:creator>pepa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ BlackDog

Surely if this were a &quot;fact&quot; and not an opinion you would hold evidence to support that claim about the ENTIRE Tea Party movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ BlackDog</p>
<p>Surely if this were a &#8220;fact&#8221; and not an opinion you would hold evidence to support that claim about the ENTIRE Tea Party movement.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackDog</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/09/17/26308/comment-page-1#comment-78806</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, economically libertarian and socially downright reactionary isn&#039;t all that uncommon of a combination these days. It&#039;s quite a common combination of beliefs among upper-class conservatives. Older Upper-middle-class conservatives actually seem to be a majority among tea party people from what I have personally observed in my area. 

This is a fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, economically libertarian and socially downright reactionary isn&#8217;t all that uncommon of a combination these days. It&#8217;s quite a common combination of beliefs among upper-class conservatives. Older Upper-middle-class conservatives actually seem to be a majority among tea party people from what I have personally observed in my area. </p>
<p>This is a fact.</p>
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		<title>By: pepa</title>
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		<dc:creator>pepa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ John.

There already very much structured movements where hypocritical social conservatives can join: AFA, FRC, CWA, FOF, WND and on and on.

The TP movement is exclusively libertarian in philosophy however there will be those in the TP that might have opinions that are beyond the realm of the Tea Party and more of the James Dobson variety.

However the only thing that Jim Burroway has proven is that how very few of them do actually exist. This is something HE REFUSES TO ADMIT EVEN WITH HIS OWN FACTS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ John.</p>
<p>There already very much structured movements where hypocritical social conservatives can join: AFA, FRC, CWA, FOF, WND and on and on.</p>
<p>The TP movement is exclusively libertarian in philosophy however there will be those in the TP that might have opinions that are beyond the realm of the Tea Party and more of the James Dobson variety.</p>
<p>However the only thing that Jim Burroway has proven is that how very few of them do actually exist. This is something HE REFUSES TO ADMIT EVEN WITH HIS OWN FACTS.</p>
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		<title>By: pepa</title>
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		<dc:creator>pepa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;
Is there anything about this post that is factually incorrect?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes the entire assumption of presenting the entire tea party movement as homophobic is INCORRECT. 

YOU cannot prove that the entire movement is anti-gay like how the FRC is. They are both WAY WAY different movements (for one FRC is more structured and the TP is not) , and this is isn&#039;t just about whether your own facts are correct not either but whether they are substantial to warrant a BIAS OPINION. Which clearly THEY ARE NOT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i><br />
Is there anything about this post that is factually incorrect?</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Yes the entire assumption of presenting the entire tea party movement as homophobic is INCORRECT. </p>
<p>YOU cannot prove that the entire movement is anti-gay like how the FRC is. They are both WAY WAY different movements (for one FRC is more structured and the TP is not) , and this is isn&#8217;t just about whether your own facts are correct not either but whether they are substantial to warrant a BIAS OPINION. Which clearly THEY ARE NOT.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;So there you have it. The Tea Party Express has no stake in social issues. Which is why their chairperson is attending a three-day conference dedicated to social issues conducted by the Family Research Council.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

But of course!

See, I have no interest in video games, which is why I own a playstation 2, playstation 3, and a PSP.  I just own them  so I can show people that I don&#039;t like video games.

Just like this tea party representative didn&#039;t just attend the VVS, she appeared as a panelist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;So there you have it. The Tea Party Express has no stake in social issues. Which is why their chairperson is attending a three-day conference dedicated to social issues conducted by the Family Research Council.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>But of course!</p>
<p>See, I have no interest in video games, which is why I own a playstation 2, playstation 3, and a PSP.  I just own them  so I can show people that I don&#8217;t like video games.</p>
<p>Just like this tea party representative didn&#8217;t just attend the VVS, she appeared as a panelist.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tea Party Express&quot; is not the tea party movement. It&#039;s a Republican group hitching itself to a popular movement. And the fact that the ex-front man that they fired says crazy things doesn&#039;t mean that a broad and decentralized movement is either xenophobic, Republican, or social-conservative. Listen to what they say: Asked by social conservatives to embrace &quot;values issues,&quot; tea party activists repeatedly refuse. That should be encouraging to people who&#039;d like to see a sane conservative movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tea Party Express&#8221; is not the tea party movement. It&#8217;s a Republican group hitching itself to a popular movement. And the fact that the ex-front man that they fired says crazy things doesn&#8217;t mean that a broad and decentralized movement is either xenophobic, Republican, or social-conservative. Listen to what they say: Asked by social conservatives to embrace &#8220;values issues,&#8221; tea party activists repeatedly refuse. That should be encouraging to people who&#8217;d like to see a sane conservative movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/09/17/26308/comment-page-1#comment-78773</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pepa, I think you project too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pepa, I think you project too much.</p>
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