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	<title>Comments on: Greensburg, Indiana: America&#8217;s Ugliest Town</title>
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		<title>By: olga nada</title>
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		<dc:creator>olga nada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from Greensburg and went to GCHS.  I have lived on the west coast for a decade, but still visit family in the burg regularly.  What I have always been aware of in Gbrg is white male entitlement and a lack of critical discourse.  There is a phenomenon there whereby men feel as though they run the show.  They can stare at whomever, say terrible things to women and minorities, and why?  It&#039;s called redneck entitlement.  If you&#039;ve never had any experiences outside of your sheltered, white, middle class, male dominated culture, one might start to think that everywhere is like Gbrg.  It&#039;s not.  I think that Gbrg is going through the same growing pains that have popularized the tea party movement.  I&#039;ve noticed on recent trips to Gbrg that when you look around there are actually out gay people and minorities, where once there were none.  This must be so scary to those who have maintained tyrannical control since the good ol&#039; days when black people were escorted out of town, or told not to let the sun set on their asses in the burg.  I&#039;ve noticed on FB and elsewhere that whenever someone blames or questions Greensburg&#039;s complicity in hate, people are quick to say that this kind of bullying happens everywhere.  As a teacher, I would agree with them in part.  Yes, bullying, especially of those deemed different, is rampant.  The difference bw elsewhere and Gbrg is that in southeastern IN, hate and the justification of hateful actions are systemic.  No one talks about anything.  Just ignore it and it&#039;ll go away, or more kids will die, maybe even one that you know or are related to.  Maybe then it will be important enough to have a community-based discussion about how Gbrg is, in fact, way behind the times.  Look around people...you&#039;ve got maybe a couple decades until not everyone else looks just like you.  Then what?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from Greensburg and went to GCHS.  I have lived on the west coast for a decade, but still visit family in the burg regularly.  What I have always been aware of in Gbrg is white male entitlement and a lack of critical discourse.  There is a phenomenon there whereby men feel as though they run the show.  They can stare at whomever, say terrible things to women and minorities, and why?  It&#8217;s called redneck entitlement.  If you&#8217;ve never had any experiences outside of your sheltered, white, middle class, male dominated culture, one might start to think that everywhere is like Gbrg.  It&#8217;s not.  I think that Gbrg is going through the same growing pains that have popularized the tea party movement.  I&#8217;ve noticed on recent trips to Gbrg that when you look around there are actually out gay people and minorities, where once there were none.  This must be so scary to those who have maintained tyrannical control since the good ol&#8217; days when black people were escorted out of town, or told not to let the sun set on their asses in the burg.  I&#8217;ve noticed on FB and elsewhere that whenever someone blames or questions Greensburg&#8217;s complicity in hate, people are quick to say that this kind of bullying happens everywhere.  As a teacher, I would agree with them in part.  Yes, bullying, especially of those deemed different, is rampant.  The difference bw elsewhere and Gbrg is that in southeastern IN, hate and the justification of hateful actions are systemic.  No one talks about anything.  Just ignore it and it&#8217;ll go away, or more kids will die, maybe even one that you know or are related to.  Maybe then it will be important enough to have a community-based discussion about how Gbrg is, in fact, way behind the times.  Look around people&#8230;you&#8217;ve got maybe a couple decades until not everyone else looks just like you.  Then what?!</p>
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		<title>By: Josie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i live in greensburg and i 100% agree with the statement of &quot;Greensburg, Indiana: America&#039;s ugliest town.&quot; I went toschool with Billy everyone knew abut him being bullied anyone who said that they didnt know was lying. Billy wasn&#039;t gay but even if he was who cares? NO one deserves to die like this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i live in greensburg and i 100% agree with the statement of &#8220;Greensburg, Indiana: America&#8217;s ugliest town.&#8221; I went toschool with Billy everyone knew abut him being bullied anyone who said that they didnt know was lying. Billy wasn&#8217;t gay but even if he was who cares? NO one deserves to die like this!</p>
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		<title>By: homer</title>
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		<dc:creator>homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 02:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those people whining about the commentary aspect of BTB, feel free to spend the hundreds of hours that Jim has spent researching these stories and make your own website.</description>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pepa

&lt;blockquote&gt;if only you liberals were honest and say that BTB is not gay site about homophobia but rather just another liberal blog then maybe you would have some credence&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You need to chill out.  

Ironically, we frequently get scolded for being too conservative as well.  This site has a number of opinions because it has more than one contributor.

In my opinion, when someone starts ranting about &quot;you&#039;re just a conservative&quot; or &quot;you&#039;re just a liberal&quot; it means that they&#039;ve run out of argument and now are engaging in group-hate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pepa</p>
<blockquote><p>if only you liberals were honest and say that BTB is not gay site about homophobia but rather just another liberal blog then maybe you would have some credence</p></blockquote>
<p>You need to chill out.  </p>
<p>Ironically, we frequently get scolded for being too conservative as well.  This site has a number of opinions because it has more than one contributor.</p>
<p>In my opinion, when someone starts ranting about &#8220;you&#8217;re just a conservative&#8221; or &#8220;you&#8217;re just a liberal&#8221; it means that they&#8217;ve run out of argument and now are engaging in group-hate.</p>
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		<title>By: customartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>customartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* Everyone,

The locals aren&#039;t holding anyone accountable.

Please ask CNN to cover the horrible Child Death and Cover-Up of Billy Lucas.  Please report the names of Bullies and teachers who knew*

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/tips/newstips.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Everyone,</p>
<p>The locals aren&#8217;t holding anyone accountable.</p>
<p>Please ask CNN to cover the horrible Child Death and Cover-Up of Billy Lucas.  Please report the names of Bullies and teachers who knew*</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/feedback/tips/newstips.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/feedback/tips/newstips.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a believer in equality the right need not be painted with any broader a brush than the right paints the left.

At the moment Surprise, AZ seems uglier to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a believer in equality the right need not be painted with any broader a brush than the right paints the left.</p>
<p>At the moment Surprise, AZ seems uglier to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 01:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a screw up with the moderation again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a screw up with the moderation again?</p>
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		<title>By: Major</title>
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		<dc:creator>Major</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE FIRST AMENDMENT DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO INCITE. 

I don&#039;t know who you are Pepe, but you are some kind of a mole or something.  He isn&#039;t voicing opinions or bantering ideas to find consensus; he is attacking people and trying to engage fighting. That is not dialogue. Pepe is inciting readers and should be banned. 

There is no moral or legal obligation to give him a forum for his hate speech. He has no 1st amendment right to incite. BTB should have a special blog for angry closeted gays that need to incite others. 

The affect on me is direct: I find myself not reading the blogs or engaging conversation due to his viral discourse. And I am using an alias today so that Pepe doesn&#039;t track me down and cause me grief. 

Good bye Peepe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE FIRST AMENDMENT DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO INCITE. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know who you are Pepe, but you are some kind of a mole or something.  He isn&#8217;t voicing opinions or bantering ideas to find consensus; he is attacking people and trying to engage fighting. That is not dialogue. Pepe is inciting readers and should be banned. </p>
<p>There is no moral or legal obligation to give him a forum for his hate speech. He has no 1st amendment right to incite. BTB should have a special blog for angry closeted gays that need to incite others. </p>
<p>The affect on me is direct: I find myself not reading the blogs or engaging conversation due to his viral discourse. And I am using an alias today so that Pepe doesn&#8217;t track me down and cause me grief. </p>
<p>Good bye Peepe.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So then in that case why even take this site seriously since it is only one man’s opinion?&lt;/i&gt;

Are you so dismissive of all opinion commentary, which btw includes YOUR blog and posts here, or is there some special reason why you are singling out BTB?  Personally I enjoy reviewing a mix of opinions from different sides, as long as they are intelligently presented.  I do not agree with Jim B. a lot on politics but I also enjoy reading his thoughts on the topics.  Ditto for Timothy K., though I agree with him more than Jim B.  So I&#039;m really have difficulty understanding what&#039;s the problem here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So then in that case why even take this site seriously since it is only one man’s opinion?</i></p>
<p>Are you so dismissive of all opinion commentary, which btw includes YOUR blog and posts here, or is there some special reason why you are singling out BTB?  Personally I enjoy reviewing a mix of opinions from different sides, as long as they are intelligently presented.  I do not agree with Jim B. a lot on politics but I also enjoy reading his thoughts on the topics.  Ditto for Timothy K., though I agree with him more than Jim B.  So I&#8217;m really have difficulty understanding what&#8217;s the problem here.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above comment by Pepa shows the typical dishonesty of right wingers like him.</description>
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