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	<title>Comments on: McCain: &#8220;They Do Not! They Do Not! They Do Not Go After Whether Someone Is Gay Or Not!&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: John in the Bay Area</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/09/21/26443/comment-page-1#comment-79193</link>
		<dc:creator>John in the Bay Area</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to see the list of people who have been separated from the military for violated the Don&#039;t Ask and Don&#039;t Pursue portions of the Don&#039;t Ask Don&#039;t Tell law.

I am guessing it would take a couple of seconds to come up with the number zero, and even less time to read the report.

The policy is patently wrong, but the application of the law in the real world is even worse, difficult as that is to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to see the list of people who have been separated from the military for violated the Don&#8217;t Ask and Don&#8217;t Pursue portions of the Don&#8217;t Ask Don&#8217;t Tell law.</p>
<p>I am guessing it would take a couple of seconds to come up with the number zero, and even less time to read the report.</p>
<p>The policy is patently wrong, but the application of the law in the real world is even worse, difficult as that is to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lauderdale</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/09/21/26443/comment-page-1#comment-79164</link>
		<dc:creator>The Lauderdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris McCoy:

Most definitions of the verb &quot;to lie&quot; include an element of intent: for example, &quot;to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive.&quot;  By most definitions, then, telling a falsehood while believing it to be true is not lying.

That said, I think that McCain is lying.  Or just demented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris McCoy:</p>
<p>Most definitions of the verb &#8220;to lie&#8221; include an element of intent: for example, &#8220;to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive.&#8221;  By most definitions, then, telling a falsehood while believing it to be true is not lying.</p>
<p>That said, I think that McCain is lying.  Or just demented.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... the best he can come up with is just repeating a phrase over and over until the questioner gives up? What&#039;s next? &quot;LALALALALALALA I can&#039;t hear you LALALALALA&quot;

Maybe the press needs to stop interviewing him altogether. He&#039;s so irrelevant he doesn&#039;t deserve a minute of time, if all he can do is repeat himself. What a complete tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; the best he can come up with is just repeating a phrase over and over until the questioner gives up? What&#8217;s next? &#8220;LALALALALALALA I can&#8217;t hear you LALALALALA&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe the press needs to stop interviewing him altogether. He&#8217;s so irrelevant he doesn&#8217;t deserve a minute of time, if all he can do is repeat himself. What a complete tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris McCoy</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/09/21/26443/comment-page-1#comment-79126</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy Kincaid wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t think he’s lying. I think he’s convinced that he’s right and that the military really doesn’t go after gay soldiers[.]&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Telling a falsehood while believing it to be true is still lying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy Kincaid wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t think he’s lying. I think he’s convinced that he’s right and that the military really doesn’t go after gay soldiers[.]</p></blockquote>
<p>Telling a falsehood while believing it to be true is still lying.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think he&#039;s lying.  I think he&#039;s convinced that he&#039;s right and that the military really doesn&#039;t go after gay soldiers (and he probably was paying no attention when Major Almy testified - he already knows what he knows so why should he pay attention?)

I may be wrong, but that&#039;s what I get from his attitude here.  He&#039;s treating the reporters like small confused children with his almost sing-song repeating of &quot;it&#039;s not the policy&quot;.  He thinks that the gay press is listening to rumors or false reports.

I don&#039;t know if it would actually get through to him if he was presented with a comprehensive list of those who were victims of active pursuit, but it might be worth trying.  He might be human enough to be embarrassed by his rant once he saw that he was wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s lying.  I think he&#8217;s convinced that he&#8217;s right and that the military really doesn&#8217;t go after gay soldiers (and he probably was paying no attention when Major Almy testified &#8211; he already knows what he knows so why should he pay attention?)</p>
<p>I may be wrong, but that&#8217;s what I get from his attitude here.  He&#8217;s treating the reporters like small confused children with his almost sing-song repeating of &#8220;it&#8217;s not the policy&#8221;.  He thinks that the gay press is listening to rumors or false reports.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if it would actually get through to him if he was presented with a comprehensive list of those who were victims of active pursuit, but it might be worth trying.  He might be human enough to be embarrassed by his rant once he saw that he was wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: justsearching</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsearching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The press needs to enact a policy of asking McCain questions about this issue, telling him documented cases of gays being thrown out, and pursuing him when he blatantly lies likes this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The press needs to enact a policy of asking McCain questions about this issue, telling him documented cases of gays being thrown out, and pursuing him when he blatantly lies likes this.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator McCain is really losing his grip on reality. Policy and actuality are not necessarily the same thing. So he has sons in the military. Lots of people have sons in the military. Does that make them experts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator McCain is really losing his grip on reality. Policy and actuality are not necessarily the same thing. So he has sons in the military. Lots of people have sons in the military. Does that make them experts?</p>
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		<title>By: customartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>customartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what the United states has been reduced to - A rich wife can buy a lifetime seat for an old codger.

Pathetic.  Are Cindy and Meghan proud of this man who hurts Americans willingly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what the United states has been reduced to &#8211; A rich wife can buy a lifetime seat for an old codger.</p>
<p>Pathetic.  Are Cindy and Meghan proud of this man who hurts Americans willingly?</p>
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		<title>By: CPT_Doom</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPT_Doom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, John McCain, as far as I know, does not have an openly gay chief of staff, at least not now. IIRC, that specific self-hating homo is now running his re-election campaign. Quite frankly, it is high time the media starts asking him why it&#039;s fine for a man who is in a registered domestic partnership in the District of Columbia to run his campaign, but a similar person should be labeled unqualified for the military. I mean, do we really thing the average military person spends as much time with another military member, and in any more intimate circumstances, than a campaign manager does with his/her candidate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, John McCain, as far as I know, does not have an openly gay chief of staff, at least not now. IIRC, that specific self-hating homo is now running his re-election campaign. Quite frankly, it is high time the media starts asking him why it&#8217;s fine for a man who is in a registered domestic partnership in the District of Columbia to run his campaign, but a similar person should be labeled unqualified for the military. I mean, do we really thing the average military person spends as much time with another military member, and in any more intimate circumstances, than a campaign manager does with his/her candidate?</p>
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		<title>By: MJC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what about that closet case, Lindsey Graham, sitting next to him, who, tellingly, seems silent during the exchange?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what about that closet case, Lindsey Graham, sitting next to him, who, tellingly, seems silent during the exchange?</p>
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