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		<title>By: Amicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a fine line, but until someone starts throwing administrators in jail, then it&#039;s going to be hard to send a message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a fine line, but until someone starts throwing administrators in jail, then it&#8217;s going to be hard to send a message.</p>
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		<title>By: customartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>customartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, here&#039;s the completed links:

Anderson Cooper
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4.html?5

Kyra Phyllips
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4.html?16</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, here&#8217;s the completed links:</p>
<p>Anderson Cooper<br />
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4.html?5" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4.html?5</a></p>
<p>Kyra Phyllips<br />
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4.html?16" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4.html?16</a></p>
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		<title>By: customartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>customartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The subject of &quot;Gay Bullying&quot; 
will be on AC 360 tonight.
 
Calling and Emailing does work.   

Now we should all Thank Kyra Phillips AND Anderson Cooper for their reporting on this issue. 

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/fo... 

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/fo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The subject of &#8220;Gay Bullying&#8221;<br />
will be on AC 360 tonight.</p>
<p>Calling and Emailing does work.   </p>
<p>Now we should all Thank Kyra Phillips AND Anderson Cooper for their reporting on this issue. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/feedback/fo" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/feedback/fo</a>&#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/feedback/fo" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/feedback/fo</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: customartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>customartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The subject of &quot;Gay Bullying&quot; is on CNN with Kyra Phillips right now right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The subject of &#8220;Gay Bullying&#8221; is on CNN with Kyra Phillips right now right now.</p>
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		<title>By: customartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>customartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, 

Sincere question:

Without criticizing, are we satisfied with the rezults and the rate of progress that those orgs are making?

Kindly, I am not.

While everyone is genuinely appreciative of all advocacy on the subject, including me; more is needed.

This may be more volume of the same strategies, however, it may very well be a need for wider variety of strategies, and clarity of message.

CAN we do more? 

Can anyone add anything to the mix of tools and processes, or shall we rest on the status of current methodologies?  I believe that any insight offered by all individual(s) and all entities must be entertained.

We who are left to observe the perpetual deaths of children obviously have durability.

Let us not squelch initiative.  We must spark renewed momentum somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, </p>
<p>Sincere question:</p>
<p>Without criticizing, are we satisfied with the rezults and the rate of progress that those orgs are making?</p>
<p>Kindly, I am not.</p>
<p>While everyone is genuinely appreciative of all advocacy on the subject, including me; more is needed.</p>
<p>This may be more volume of the same strategies, however, it may very well be a need for wider variety of strategies, and clarity of message.</p>
<p>CAN we do more? </p>
<p>Can anyone add anything to the mix of tools and processes, or shall we rest on the status of current methodologies?  I believe that any insight offered by all individual(s) and all entities must be entertained.</p>
<p>We who are left to observe the perpetual deaths of children obviously have durability.</p>
<p>Let us not squelch initiative.  We must spark renewed momentum somehow.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 05:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve in Mi: It is unbelievable that a public official, and an assistant AG is certainly a public official, can be allowed to conduct himself in such a way against a law abiding citizen of the state. Clearly this sad little man is unbalanced and cannot be seen as fit to adequately serve the people of Michigan. I think he deserves someone to start a blog about him, pouring through the minutiae of his sad little life, exposing whatever peccadilloes he might wish to keep hidden. 

He comes across like a spurned lover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve in Mi: It is unbelievable that a public official, and an assistant AG is certainly a public official, can be allowed to conduct himself in such a way against a law abiding citizen of the state. Clearly this sad little man is unbalanced and cannot be seen as fit to adequately serve the people of Michigan. I think he deserves someone to start a blog about him, pouring through the minutiae of his sad little life, exposing whatever peccadilloes he might wish to keep hidden. </p>
<p>He comes across like a spurned lover.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in MI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thanks for this powerful post.

Here in Michigan, we are fighting an uphill battle to protect our children from bullying.  It turns out that one of the assistant AG&#039;s in our State Attorney General&#039;s office moonlights as an Internet-based gay harassment agent.

From the ABC affiliate in Detroit: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/asst.-attorney-general-engaging-in-cyber-bullying,-targeting-an-openly-gay-college-student</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thanks for this powerful post.</p>
<p>Here in Michigan, we are fighting an uphill battle to protect our children from bullying.  It turns out that one of the assistant AG&#8217;s in our State Attorney General&#8217;s office moonlights as an Internet-based gay harassment agent.</p>
<p>From the ABC affiliate in Detroit: <a href="http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/asst.-attorney-general-engaging-in-cyber-bullying,-targeting-an-openly-gay-college-student" rel="nofollow">http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/asst.-attorney-general-engaging-in-cyber-bullying,-targeting-an-openly-gay-college-student</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nelson Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nelson Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have read my past posts re gay youth suicide you saw that I&#039;ve given several examples of the homophobic hate directed towards me and my kids; Such as: &quot;If it were legal I would stone you and all your gay kids to death&quot; or &quot;It is better for a gay youth to commit suicide rather then grow up and contaminate society&quot; etc.
Following is a post [first one] I wrote about the suicide of Billy Lucas and comments regarding it by the same person. 
I wrote other private posts to this person trying to reason with her but she remained unchanged.

[Nelson,s Comment] The blood of Billy and all those gay youth who committ suicide or are killed because of their sexual orientation will be on the hands of all those whose beliefs bully, ostracise, demean and deny these youth from having a normal, care-free, happy childhood.

I know I am waisting my breath on most right wing Christians because they will absolve themselves of any guilt. Their conscience has been brainwashed by Bible hate

A kid does not choose to be gay and then﻿ kill themself because they are.


=======
[In response to my comment] Their perverted satanic blood will be on their own hands.It was their choice to worship the Rectum instead of God,and it was their choice to commit the sin of suicide.No body bullied the little sissy boy,please,what is wrong with you.Be a man,and Obey God,and Hush Up.Real Men love Jesus Christ,they don&#039;t fornicate in the bushes of america,&amp; then cry out for special rights.

Homosexuality is destroying america,this latest news story is ample proof of that.

Tea Party 2010 &amp; 2012 ! 
=
[What this same person wrote to others] I never said that I would ever execute anyone,but my church,family,and myself prays everyday that one day in the near future we will vote in God fearing americans that will reverse all progress the gays have made,&amp; make it illegal to be gay,and through all the proper legal channels,arrest all﻿ gays,&amp; God willing sentence them to the death penalty.Praise God.
America&#039;s future is with God,deal with it.

==

They did nothing wrong.It is the boy that was evil.He is burning in hell now,for chosing the Rectum and the Penis over the Eternal Saving Light of the Lord His God.God shall not be mocked.This is another reason why we must protect﻿ the youth of america from perverted lifestyles.We must start first by praying away the gay,and when we take back the whitehouse and congress,then we can take more serious actions,Praise God.

Have a nice day.

Sarah Palin 2012 !

=============
... .We must &amp; shall Reclaim America For Christ,&amp; then we can arrest all the gays &amp; atheists,&amp; anyone else who tries to divide the Body of Christ.
=======
Excuse me,sinner,but you say different agenda than me,no,you mean satanic agenda.Homonsexuality is satanic,and no homosexual will ever live in my house.If my children grow up and chose the Rectum over God,then they will be out on the street in the blink of an eye,and they﻿ will never see a penny either,they will be cut out of the will.My children already know this.They are being raised up for the Lord properly,so that want ever be a problem anyway,Praise God.
======
You will burn in the eternal and everlasting fires of hell,for calling a﻿ daughter of the one true and living God a psychopath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have read my past posts re gay youth suicide you saw that I&#8217;ve given several examples of the homophobic hate directed towards me and my kids; Such as: &#8220;If it were legal I would stone you and all your gay kids to death&#8221; or &#8220;It is better for a gay youth to commit suicide rather then grow up and contaminate society&#8221; etc.<br />
Following is a post [first one] I wrote about the suicide of Billy Lucas and comments regarding it by the same person.<br />
I wrote other private posts to this person trying to reason with her but she remained unchanged.</p>
<p>[Nelson,s Comment] The blood of Billy and all those gay youth who committ suicide or are killed because of their sexual orientation will be on the hands of all those whose beliefs bully, ostracise, demean and deny these youth from having a normal, care-free, happy childhood.</p>
<p>I know I am waisting my breath on most right wing Christians because they will absolve themselves of any guilt. Their conscience has been brainwashed by Bible hate</p>
<p>A kid does not choose to be gay and then﻿ kill themself because they are.</p>
<p>=======<br />
[In response to my comment] Their perverted satanic blood will be on their own hands.It was their choice to worship the Rectum instead of God,and it was their choice to commit the sin of suicide.No body bullied the little sissy boy,please,what is wrong with you.Be a man,and Obey God,and Hush Up.Real Men love Jesus Christ,they don&#8217;t fornicate in the bushes of america,&amp; then cry out for special rights.</p>
<p>Homosexuality is destroying america,this latest news story is ample proof of that.</p>
<p>Tea Party 2010 &amp; 2012 !<br />
=<br />
[What this same person wrote to others] I never said that I would ever execute anyone,but my church,family,and myself prays everyday that one day in the near future we will vote in God fearing americans that will reverse all progress the gays have made,&amp; make it illegal to be gay,and through all the proper legal channels,arrest all﻿ gays,&amp; God willing sentence them to the death penalty.Praise God.<br />
America&#8217;s future is with God,deal with it.</p>
<p>==</p>
<p>They did nothing wrong.It is the boy that was evil.He is burning in hell now,for chosing the Rectum and the Penis over the Eternal Saving Light of the Lord His God.God shall not be mocked.This is another reason why we must protect﻿ the youth of america from perverted lifestyles.We must start first by praying away the gay,and when we take back the whitehouse and congress,then we can take more serious actions,Praise God.</p>
<p>Have a nice day.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin 2012 !</p>
<p>=============<br />
&#8230; .We must &amp; shall Reclaim America For Christ,&amp; then we can arrest all the gays &amp; atheists,&amp; anyone else who tries to divide the Body of Christ.<br />
=======<br />
Excuse me,sinner,but you say different agenda than me,no,you mean satanic agenda.Homonsexuality is satanic,and no homosexual will ever live in my house.If my children grow up and chose the Rectum over God,then they will be out on the street in the blink of an eye,and they﻿ will never see a penny either,they will be cut out of the will.My children already know this.They are being raised up for the Lord properly,so that want ever be a problem anyway,Praise God.<br />
======<br />
You will burn in the eternal and everlasting fires of hell,for calling a﻿ daughter of the one true and living God a psychopath.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Camardelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Camardelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw the video &quot;It Gets Better&quot; from stop8.org from San Francisco. I wonder had Asher seen this, would he have chosen to live instead of take his own life.

I&#039;m still in tears.

I wonder how many other kids are out there right now facing the bullying in school or ostracizing from friends, family, and churches ... and they just don&#039;t know that there is help and support out here.

I&#039;m so saddened that these families teach such hatred that their children would do such a thing, and that these teachers and administrators didn&#039;t take action to stop the hurt inflicted on Asher.

My God, what are we doing that a 13 y/o kid would commit suicide?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw the video &#8220;It Gets Better&#8221; from stop8.org from San Francisco. I wonder had Asher seen this, would he have chosen to live instead of take his own life.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still in tears.</p>
<p>I wonder how many other kids are out there right now facing the bullying in school or ostracizing from friends, family, and churches &#8230; and they just don&#8217;t know that there is help and support out here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so saddened that these families teach such hatred that their children would do such a thing, and that these teachers and administrators didn&#8217;t take action to stop the hurt inflicted on Asher.</p>
<p>My God, what are we doing that a 13 y/o kid would commit suicide?</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it may be more accurate to say that fundies see childhood bulling as a zero sum game. It&#039;s either the gay kids or their kids, that&#039;s why they fight anti-bullying laws. They assume that if gay kids are protected, their children will be bullied. Nevermind that anti-bullying laws have their goal as no child is bullied, but reality does not often register with that group.

I was super lucky to go to pretty liberal Catholic schools where calling other kids &quot;gay&quot; got students punished and there was just silence on the whole issue of whether homosexuality was okay or not. They only cared about making it clear that you can&#039;t pick on others about it.

If my alma mater could toe that lie during the 90s when AIDS was always on the news, I don&#039;t know why everyone assumes other schools can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it may be more accurate to say that fundies see childhood bulling as a zero sum game. It&#8217;s either the gay kids or their kids, that&#8217;s why they fight anti-bullying laws. They assume that if gay kids are protected, their children will be bullied. Nevermind that anti-bullying laws have their goal as no child is bullied, but reality does not often register with that group.</p>
<p>I was super lucky to go to pretty liberal Catholic schools where calling other kids &#8220;gay&#8221; got students punished and there was just silence on the whole issue of whether homosexuality was okay or not. They only cared about making it clear that you can&#8217;t pick on others about it.</p>
<p>If my alma mater could toe that lie during the 90s when AIDS was always on the news, I don&#8217;t know why everyone assumes other schools can&#8217;t.</p>
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