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	<title>Comments on: Bakersfield-Area Teen Dies After Suicide Attempt; No Charges Will Be Filed</title>
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		<title>By: Mark F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, bullying often involves real crimes (not just calling names) and the children who bully and the adults who cover for them should be held accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, bullying often involves real crimes (not just calling names) and the children who bully and the adults who cover for them should be held accountable.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 04:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candace, I am right there with you.  The thing is, I tell everyone , friends, and everyone I meet.  I make it MY BUSINESS to promulgate the lies and hatred that are being proliferated by these disgusting Un-Christlike bigots.

I send letters to the FRC, but the cowards never respond.

I think it&#039;s high time that Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center starts investigating.

Rayomond, NEVER, EVER lose hope or your courage, young man.  God does not make junk!  It&#039;s the evil that dwells in the hearts of people that allow things like this to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candace, I am right there with you.  The thing is, I tell everyone , friends, and everyone I meet.  I make it MY BUSINESS to promulgate the lies and hatred that are being proliferated by these disgusting Un-Christlike bigots.</p>
<p>I send letters to the FRC, but the cowards never respond.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s high time that Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center starts investigating.</p>
<p>Rayomond, NEVER, EVER lose hope or your courage, young man.  God does not make junk!  It&#8217;s the evil that dwells in the hearts of people that allow things like this to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 02:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to echo what Regan said above:  &quot;bullying&quot; may not be a defined crime under CA law, but a whole host of acts that may comprise bullying - assault, battery, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, etc. - are crimes.  Unless we hear from all parties that the bullying in this case involved only name-calling and no physical acts, no destruction of property, and no threats of violence, then we should assume that the police are covering for the bullies.

I don&#039;t care if these bullies shed some tears on cue.  When I was a teen, I could put on a performance worthy of Bill Clinton and then be laughing about it 30 minutes later.  We shouldn&#039;t let this story drop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to echo what Regan said above:  &#8220;bullying&#8221; may not be a defined crime under CA law, but a whole host of acts that may comprise bullying &#8211; assault, battery, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, etc. &#8211; are crimes.  Unless we hear from all parties that the bullying in this case involved only name-calling and no physical acts, no destruction of property, and no threats of violence, then we should assume that the police are covering for the bullies.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if these bullies shed some tears on cue.  When I was a teen, I could put on a performance worthy of Bill Clinton and then be laughing about it 30 minutes later.  We shouldn&#8217;t let this story drop.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 01:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this epidemic of kids who cannot bear living anymore due to harassment must just be the tip of the iceburg.

For every kid who has it so bad that s/he committs suicide, there must be hundreds living with PTSD-like symptoms from the psychological wounds they&#039;ve managed to survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this epidemic of kids who cannot bear living anymore due to harassment must just be the tip of the iceburg.</p>
<p>For every kid who has it so bad that s/he committs suicide, there must be hundreds living with PTSD-like symptoms from the psychological wounds they&#8217;ve managed to survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering about this boy&#039;s parents. Why didn&#039;t they do anything if this had been going on for such a long time?  I wonder if he told them anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering about this boy&#8217;s parents. Why didn&#8217;t they do anything if this had been going on for such a long time?  I wonder if he told them anything.</p>
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		<title>By: John in the Bay Area</title>
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		<dc:creator>John in the Bay Area</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it is positive that we are talking about these suicides and putting faces on the problem, even if the parents of the victims aren&#039;t always happy about it.  This problem is real.  It is tragic.  We as a nation need to address it.  But we are only going to start addressing it, when we start talking about it.  And as sad as it is, a picture showing just how much of a kid the victim was helps jar people out of their ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it is positive that we are talking about these suicides and putting faces on the problem, even if the parents of the victims aren&#8217;t always happy about it.  This problem is real.  It is tragic.  We as a nation need to address it.  But we are only going to start addressing it, when we start talking about it.  And as sad as it is, a picture showing just how much of a kid the victim was helps jar people out of their ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: Seraphiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seraphiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand by my statement that this will continue until *school officials* start going to prison for criminal negligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand by my statement that this will continue until *school officials* start going to prison for criminal negligence.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 20:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As far as the FRC, FOC, AFA goes, may God have mercy on your ignorant, IGNORANT poor excuse for souls, for promoting your disgusting propaganda.&quot;
 

You all need to get one thing clear in your mind:  THIS IS NOT DONE OUT OF IGNORANCE: IT&#039;S DONE DELIBERATELY.

To anti-gays, the only good gay is a dead gay.  They don&#039;t care if we ALL committ suicide-- in fact, they hope we do.  

They want to wipe us off the face of the earth.  All of us, every single last one of us.  That&#039;s how deep their hatred runs, and I don&#039;t see how anyone can NOT see that.  

We MUST protect our young and stop worrying that--God forbid!-- that if we mentor vulnerable gays, somebody might think we&#039;re not JUST LIKE the hetero couple next door!  Well, we&#039;re NOT like the hetero next door, we&#039;re GAY and LESBIAN and we need to stop cringing around being so politically correct and not wanting to make waves that we allow THEM to destroy what is OURS.

I&#039;m not a politician and I&#039;m not a social worker and I&#039;m not an activist, but I know there HAS TO BE SOME WAY that we can come together to tell the world F*CK YOU, we&#039;ll protect what is ours.

I already buried my 20 year old daughter over the same thing and every child on the news is like a new knife in my chest.  I want to do something, but I don&#039;t know what to do.  It&#039;s obvious that the approach we&#039;re taking now isn&#039;t working.

We can&#039;t just keep looking at the faces of our dead, writing a couple of posts about it, and getting up from the computer and going with our lives.  SOMEBODY has to come up with a better plan of action that what we have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As far as the FRC, FOC, AFA goes, may God have mercy on your ignorant, IGNORANT poor excuse for souls, for promoting your disgusting propaganda.&#8221;</p>
<p>You all need to get one thing clear in your mind:  THIS IS NOT DONE OUT OF IGNORANCE: IT&#8217;S DONE DELIBERATELY.</p>
<p>To anti-gays, the only good gay is a dead gay.  They don&#8217;t care if we ALL committ suicide&#8211; in fact, they hope we do.  </p>
<p>They want to wipe us off the face of the earth.  All of us, every single last one of us.  That&#8217;s how deep their hatred runs, and I don&#8217;t see how anyone can NOT see that.  </p>
<p>We MUST protect our young and stop worrying that&#8211;God forbid!&#8211; that if we mentor vulnerable gays, somebody might think we&#8217;re not JUST LIKE the hetero couple next door!  Well, we&#8217;re NOT like the hetero next door, we&#8217;re GAY and LESBIAN and we need to stop cringing around being so politically correct and not wanting to make waves that we allow THEM to destroy what is OURS.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a politician and I&#8217;m not a social worker and I&#8217;m not an activist, but I know there HAS TO BE SOME WAY that we can come together to tell the world F*CK YOU, we&#8217;ll protect what is ours.</p>
<p>I already buried my 20 year old daughter over the same thing and every child on the news is like a new knife in my chest.  I want to do something, but I don&#8217;t know what to do.  It&#8217;s obvious that the approach we&#8217;re taking now isn&#8217;t working.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t just keep looking at the faces of our dead, writing a couple of posts about it, and getting up from the computer and going with our lives.  SOMEBODY has to come up with a better plan of action that what we have.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 20:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raymond, stay strong and courageous! If things ever get too tough and you need someone to talk to who also came out at 15, i can give you my email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raymond, stay strong and courageous! If things ever get too tough and you need someone to talk to who also came out at 15, i can give you my email.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 19:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is Bakersfield. Sorry for the confusion.  </description>
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