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	<title>Comments on: Ohio Boy Cheerleader&#8217;s Arm Broken; Still Getting Threats, Still Cheerleading</title>
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		<title>By: Pender</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There needs to be a concerted effort by an impact litigation group like ACLU or Lambda Legal to sue each and every school that knows about anti-gay bullying and does not stop it.

We can&#039;t convince these people that gay people are human beings and deserve respect. We can&#039;t persuade them that bullying is not just a matter of &quot;boys will be boys&quot; but can and MUST be stopped.

We have to sue them. There is precedent. Take them before a jury and ask them why they did nothing after the kid was physically beaten, day after day, forced to live in fear of violence, harassed during school and in class. Ask them why they stood by and did nothing while a vulnerable and innocent child was being tortured on their watch. Drag as much money out of them as we can, and shame them as much as possible.

I am convinced that that is the way forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There needs to be a concerted effort by an impact litigation group like ACLU or Lambda Legal to sue each and every school that knows about anti-gay bullying and does not stop it.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t convince these people that gay people are human beings and deserve respect. We can&#8217;t persuade them that bullying is not just a matter of &#8220;boys will be boys&#8221; but can and MUST be stopped.</p>
<p>We have to sue them. There is precedent. Take them before a jury and ask them why they did nothing after the kid was physically beaten, day after day, forced to live in fear of violence, harassed during school and in class. Ask them why they stood by and did nothing while a vulnerable and innocent child was being tortured on their watch. Drag as much money out of them as we can, and shame them as much as possible.</p>
<p>I am convinced that that is the way forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob San Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob San Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 07:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all the recent suicides and bullying going on, it&#039;s a shame that younger kids aren&#039;t aware of this website. Nothing on here is ever that graphic or inappropriate and I think it would be great if they were able to read some of the great wisdom that is advised on here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all the recent suicides and bullying going on, it&#8217;s a shame that younger kids aren&#8217;t aware of this website. Nothing on here is ever that graphic or inappropriate and I think it would be great if they were able to read some of the great wisdom that is advised on here.</p>
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		<title>By: Wyzdyx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wyzdyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope some famous, straight male ex-cheerleaders remind everyone real soon about the scholarships that put them through college: Denzel Washington &amp; George W. Bush, for example.

Also, does anyone remember that asian martial arts were developed as self-protection?  If these kids were earning black belts, they would be learning how to avoid confrontation whenever possible, and how to walk away unscathed otherwise.  Being small is no handicap with the proper training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope some famous, straight male ex-cheerleaders remind everyone real soon about the scholarships that put them through college: Denzel Washington &amp; George W. Bush, for example.</p>
<p>Also, does anyone remember that asian martial arts were developed as self-protection?  If these kids were earning black belts, they would be learning how to avoid confrontation whenever possible, and how to walk away unscathed otherwise.  Being small is no handicap with the proper training.</p>
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		<title>By: Tone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 02:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the school supposed to be acting in loco parentis while the boy is in their care? Terminate their employment for being negligent. Once a few principals have been fired for not protecting ALL of their students the others will get the message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the school supposed to be acting in loco parentis while the boy is in their care? Terminate their employment for being negligent. Once a few principals have been fired for not protecting ALL of their students the others will get the message.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 02:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  An actual arrest.  Probably b/c the victim has not identified as gay.  If he had, this would have been handled the same way as this week&#039;s 3 gay teen bullying/suicides:  no charges and let&#039;s move on. 

I see that the police and the media protect the names of the minor thugs and killers in all 4 cases.  But scores of their classmates know who they are and it only takes one kid and a twitter account to expose these thugs to the world. This should haunt them for life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  An actual arrest.  Probably b/c the victim has not identified as gay.  If he had, this would have been handled the same way as this week&#8217;s 3 gay teen bullying/suicides:  no charges and let&#8217;s move on. </p>
<p>I see that the police and the media protect the names of the minor thugs and killers in all 4 cases.  But scores of their classmates know who they are and it only takes one kid and a twitter account to expose these thugs to the world. This should haunt them for life.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 01:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s indefensible that an 11 year old should have to face this level of oppression and violence. However, it&#039;s happening whether it&#039;s fair or not. Given today&#039;s political climate, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s hyperbole to say his life is at risk. While I think many things are worth fighting or even possibly dying for, cheering ain&#039;t one of them. His parents should step in and force him to quit cheering, or if financially feasible, move to a more liberal part of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s indefensible that an 11 year old should have to face this level of oppression and violence. However, it&#8217;s happening whether it&#8217;s fair or not. Given today&#8217;s political climate, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s hyperbole to say his life is at risk. While I think many things are worth fighting or even possibly dying for, cheering ain&#8217;t one of them. His parents should step in and force him to quit cheering, or if financially feasible, move to a more liberal part of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: customartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>customartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In late 2010 this is the mindset we are still faced with.  

In communities that support the School Board, who support the schools, who in turn think this way, also lie the Courts and the Judges that will act accordingly to retain their positions specifically and in their communities.

Only some of them will dare to uphold justice for PERCEIVED gay conduct.

We will not gain ground by appealing to the sensibilities of these mindsets. We will have to fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In late 2010 this is the mindset we are still faced with.  </p>
<p>In communities that support the School Board, who support the schools, who in turn think this way, also lie the Courts and the Judges that will act accordingly to retain their positions specifically and in their communities.</p>
<p>Only some of them will dare to uphold justice for PERCEIVED gay conduct.</p>
<p>We will not gain ground by appealing to the sensibilities of these mindsets. We will have to fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Show of hands, who hear saw &quot;The Blind Side?&quot;

  There was a point when SB&#039;s character was looking for her new son in his old ghetto neighborhood. The local thugs made veiled cracks about something happening to him if he didn&#039;t do what they said and for busting up a party.

  She told them she had a Saturday night special in her bag and in no uncertain terms, &quot;you threaten my son, you threaten me.&quot;

  I&#039;m seriously thinking maybe this mom (all parents of threatened children) needs to put out the warning that any thugs threaten her son, some hot lead might be the next answer she has for it.

   Seriously people...that&#039;s what I would LOVE to do myself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Show of hands, who hear saw &#8220;The Blind Side?&#8221;</p>
<p>  There was a point when SB&#8217;s character was looking for her new son in his old ghetto neighborhood. The local thugs made veiled cracks about something happening to him if he didn&#8217;t do what they said and for busting up a party.</p>
<p>  She told them she had a Saturday night special in her bag and in no uncertain terms, &#8220;you threaten my son, you threaten me.&#8221;</p>
<p>  I&#8217;m seriously thinking maybe this mom (all parents of threatened children) needs to put out the warning that any thugs threaten her son, some hot lead might be the next answer she has for it.</p>
<p>   Seriously people&#8230;that&#8217;s what I would LOVE to do myself!</p>
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		<title>By: Seraphiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seraphiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, again, we have an instance of the school officials knowing about this problem and doing absolutely nothing about it.

They have a number of legal responsibilities to the children in their care, and they need to be held legally accountable for their failures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, again, we have an instance of the school officials knowing about this problem and doing absolutely nothing about it.</p>
<p>They have a number of legal responsibilities to the children in their care, and they need to be held legally accountable for their failures.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this might be a terrible thing to say...
But remember that dad that got on the bus and yelled at all the kids about what he&#039;d do if they didn&#039;t leave his daughter (who has CP) alone?

   I&#039;ve heard him interviewed since his tirade. And he&#039;s apologized.
But I was thinking, when are the little punks who hurt his daughter going to be compelled to apologize?

   School shootings have been precipitated by bullying. If instead these youngsters had the wherewithal to shoot their tormentors, instead of harming themselves...only THEN is the school going to act?!

   This is where gay folks are not given credit for responding to such tragedy in kind.
How much opportunity do any of us have for storming the school and threatening someone with violence unless they do the right thing?
 How many in the number of gay young people have been brutalized, yet...the people responsible weren&#039;t lynched.
We have waited, we allow for the law and justice to assume it&#039;s due course...we wait and wait again.
 And if any explosion occurs, like a loud rally, or flash of anger...we&#039;re judged as if our response is inappropriate, threatening or unwarranted.

    All things considered why AREN&#039;T the adults in all this showing some introspection, some grief and MAJOR anger at the children responsible?!
Why aren&#039;t they as upset and angry as WE are.
We. wait.
 And keep waiting...and we don&#039;t explode like a ticking bomb.
We grieve, we make phone calls and write and hope for an audience. We wait.
  We get a few crumbs from the table and are made to wait and wait again...for more.
Meanwhile, there are children in pain. Who suffer enough torment to even THINK of ways to die. To kill themselves.

  And those responsible dare to think we&#039;ll wait some more.
How do they know that?

  Do they really count on a non violent, silent response...all the while saying we&#039;re violent and threatening for daring to shed tears, for shouting at them in pain?

  This is a cruel bitch of a world. And the people making it this way, couldn&#039;t care less.
Maybe that&#039;s the calculation my friends. That WE can wait...because THEY don&#039;t have to worry about a thing.
Really.
Or...do they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this might be a terrible thing to say&#8230;<br />
But remember that dad that got on the bus and yelled at all the kids about what he&#8217;d do if they didn&#8217;t leave his daughter (who has CP) alone?</p>
<p>   I&#8217;ve heard him interviewed since his tirade. And he&#8217;s apologized.<br />
But I was thinking, when are the little punks who hurt his daughter going to be compelled to apologize?</p>
<p>   School shootings have been precipitated by bullying. If instead these youngsters had the wherewithal to shoot their tormentors, instead of harming themselves&#8230;only THEN is the school going to act?!</p>
<p>   This is where gay folks are not given credit for responding to such tragedy in kind.<br />
How much opportunity do any of us have for storming the school and threatening someone with violence unless they do the right thing?<br />
 How many in the number of gay young people have been brutalized, yet&#8230;the people responsible weren&#8217;t lynched.<br />
We have waited, we allow for the law and justice to assume it&#8217;s due course&#8230;we wait and wait again.<br />
 And if any explosion occurs, like a loud rally, or flash of anger&#8230;we&#8217;re judged as if our response is inappropriate, threatening or unwarranted.</p>
<p>    All things considered why AREN&#8217;T the adults in all this showing some introspection, some grief and MAJOR anger at the children responsible?!<br />
Why aren&#8217;t they as upset and angry as WE are.<br />
We. wait.<br />
 And keep waiting&#8230;and we don&#8217;t explode like a ticking bomb.<br />
We grieve, we make phone calls and write and hope for an audience. We wait.<br />
  We get a few crumbs from the table and are made to wait and wait again&#8230;for more.<br />
Meanwhile, there are children in pain. Who suffer enough torment to even THINK of ways to die. To kill themselves.</p>
<p>  And those responsible dare to think we&#8217;ll wait some more.<br />
How do they know that?</p>
<p>  Do they really count on a non violent, silent response&#8230;all the while saying we&#8217;re violent and threatening for daring to shed tears, for shouting at them in pain?</p>
<p>  This is a cruel bitch of a world. And the people making it this way, couldn&#8217;t care less.<br />
Maybe that&#8217;s the calculation my friends. That WE can wait&#8230;because THEY don&#8217;t have to worry about a thing.<br />
Really.<br />
Or&#8230;do they?</p>
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