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Personally, I think the Democrats will do nothing but cave, cave and bow low to their new Republican masters on issues of civil and human rights, beginning on Nov. 3, 2010.

Sometime in late 2011, we will see minor but clear hints that they ‘care’ about us and, up to the election, we will once again be courted and promised the blue from the skies.

I don’t want the blue from the skies, I want my civil and human rights. I spent the first decade of my adult life battling those gays who demanded I put aside my childish monogamy and behave like they wanted me to. It was the same straight-jacket heteronormative society wanted to impose on me, just in a different style.
I spent the next 15 years burying nearly all my friends.
It’s time to make it clear to the Democrats: Either you believe in civil rights or you don’t. Promises are easy when you know you can’t fulfill them. They had the power to keep their promises and they threw us under the bus alongside women and the transgender.

I’m done with the urgency of whenever. We are a minority, but a cold, hard look at the statistics should be enough to convince even the leftovers from the DLC – without us, they haven’t got a chance in several major races. We aren’t a closed block, there is no inherent reason for us to vote for the Democrats except their support for restoring our rights.

When even South American banana republics recognize our full human and civil status, why on earth accept less in the USA?

What to do to get support? This is a very good question.

With all of your, and others’, strong deire to affect things Right Now! I personally believe that from a strategic standpoint that right after the elections will be a monumental time for the movement of Gay civil Rights.

This is because of several factors;

First, Democrats are stuck in a game as are all politicians of having to get popular vote in order to merely maintain their positions, They can’t help us if they are not elected. They will not have this pressure after the election.

Unfortunately, gays are a smaller portion of the society overall than the 40 – 60 % (or whatever the actual numbers are) of society that approve of gays having rights.

Almost immedaitely after the election, the study on DADT will be finished and this will be the time for movement on that issue.

I complain that there has been NO Consideration within the Study with regards to what effects Openly serving gays has had on Other Countries, and that the study has gone so far as to consider the Wives’ opinions, which are irrelevant. Someone has seen the numbers not adding up in their favors and they have resorted to “cookin’ the books”

Also, the culmination of child suicides, of the “all faggots must die” email form Sen. Chamblis’ office, and of the Michigan Asst. AG’s heinous actions will have this all boiling over in our favor.

2011 will be THE TIME for overall “Bias Intimidation” Legislation.

Please don’t be angry with me for proposing a strategy. All opinions deserve respect in the overall effort.

Thanks

We’re going to lose, and lose big, in a few weeks. It is better to use this loss to demonstrate in undeniably clear terms to the Democrats that without us, they have a major, serious problem than to continue to be the victims in this abusive relationship.

It is, I admit, easy for me to say – my Democratic senate and house members are strong supporters of our civil and human rights and they all haven’t got a chance this coming November. They’ve got both my financial support and my vote, but it’s purely symbolic.

What would you suggest we do to get the Democrats to support human and civil rights for us if not by closing our pocketbooks and withholding our one, true power from those who don’t support us?

@Alex,
We cannot remove support for All, in order to spite Some.

@CB,
Just this week we have had Death speech form the Government Office of se. Saxby Chambliss, and a Blog of Harrassment, and protests outside of a gay student’s home, coming from the Michigan Asst. AG Shirvel.

Governments are still today creating laws that opress Gays and fly in the face of the U.S. Constitution.

@Lucrece,
Your statements are exactly correct.
Laws are needed, to clarify and specify teachers’ responsibilities, and so is affirmative implementation. But surely there are existing laws that hold caretakers responsible for children’s safety, should Parents wish to sue.

@Panthera,
I feel your frustration. But I will not vote out any Democrat unless I know with certainty that they have voted against us. This is my measure.

Voting categorically against the Domocratic Party line will only rezult in postponed Civil rights for Gays overall. The Republicans only fain compassion, and only a very few at that.

kindly

We are stuck in an abusive relationship with the Democrats – fostered by the HRC – which leaves us permanent victims. They beat us up, then tell us it would be even worse with the Republicans and tea-baggers.

The upcoming elections are a perfect opportunity to unite and tell the Democrats to either stand up and do something for us or we will only vote for the few Dems who actually support us – and sit on our hands otherwise.

Then, after they get whupped on Nov. 2, write them and tell them exactly who you did and did not vote for, and why.

Honestly, these deaths of young children, teenagers and adults are the direct consequence of letting our enemies abuse us. There is blood on our hands for this because of our willingness to let the Democrats abuse us.

Without us, they haven’t got a chance in the South. Without us, they will definitely lose the house and quite possibly the senate. We have to use this opportunity.

That is exactly what needs to happen. Bullying policies will be minimally effective if there is no real (even criminal) consequence to those caught bullying.

Is he completely out of touch with the facts or is he just bad at math?

Last count was five or six gay young men committed suicide in the last week. It was widely known that at least THREE of them died on one day, Wednesday, before this statement was made.