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	<title>Comments on: Belgian Archbishop: &#8220;AIDS Is a Kind of Immanant Justice&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: MJC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOMEONE SHOULD THROW A WAFFLE AT THIS GUY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOMEONE SHOULD THROW A WAFFLE AT THIS GUY.</p>
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		<title>By: werdna</title>
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		<dc:creator>werdna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 10:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Archbishop&#039;s original statement was in French, and I&#039;m not sure what adjective he used. Regardless, &quot;immanent&quot; and &quot;inherent&quot; are basically synonymous in this context. &quot;Immanant&quot; (which appears in the headline here) isn&#039;t the correct spelling of the word we&#039;re discussing!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/news/101015_Leonard_reacts&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This follow-up article&lt;/a&gt; uses the same formulation of &quot;a kind of immanent justice&quot;, though &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/1016/1224281252759.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt; uses both &quot;intrinsic justice&quot; and &quot;inherent justice&quot;, so I suspect it&#039;s just a question of the translator&#039;s preference.

Re: Franck&#039;s comment, the Archbishop has clarified that he does distinguish between &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNs2mOkKzc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;good AIDS&quot; and &quot;bad AIDS&quot;&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;AIDS is not a punishment by God, but a logical consequence of changing sexual contacts&quot;, André Léonard explains. &quot;I was not talking about AIDS caused by blood transfusions or as an illness that you are born with.&quot;

The Archbishop made a comparison with smoking to explain his words: &quot;If someone gets lung cancer through smoking, the cancer is a kind of immanent justice. The person in question was aware of what he did, and his choices have a consequence.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Archbishop&#8217;s original statement was in French, and I&#8217;m not sure what adjective he used. Regardless, &#8220;immanent&#8221; and &#8220;inherent&#8221; are basically synonymous in this context. &#8220;Immanant&#8221; (which appears in the headline here) isn&#8217;t the correct spelling of the word we&#8217;re discussing!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/news/101015_Leonard_reacts" rel="nofollow">This follow-up article</a> uses the same formulation of &#8220;a kind of immanent justice&#8221;, though <a href="http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/1016/1224281252759.html" rel="nofollow">this one</a> uses both &#8220;intrinsic justice&#8221; and &#8220;inherent justice&#8221;, so I suspect it&#8217;s just a question of the translator&#8217;s preference.</p>
<p>Re: Franck&#8217;s comment, the Archbishop has clarified that he does distinguish between <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNs2mOkKzc" rel="nofollow">&#8220;good AIDS&#8221; and &#8220;bad AIDS&#8221;</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;AIDS is not a punishment by God, but a logical consequence of changing sexual contacts&#8221;, André Léonard explains. &#8220;I was not talking about AIDS caused by blood transfusions or as an illness that you are born with.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Archbishop made a comparison with smoking to explain his words: &#8220;If someone gets lung cancer through smoking, the cancer is a kind of immanent justice. The person in question was aware of what he did, and his choices have a consequence.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 09:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the correct phrase he used was that AIDS was a &quot;sort of inherent justice&quot; which I&#039;d say is even a worse statement.  This is the same fool who said, &quot;homosexuality is not the same as normal sex, in the same way that anorexia is not a normal appetite.&quot;

&quot;If God exists, maybe he could provide a punishment for someone who utters such nonsense,&quot; said Rudy Demotte, prime minister of Belgium&#039;s southern Wallonia region.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the correct phrase he used was that AIDS was a &#8220;sort of inherent justice&#8221; which I&#8217;d say is even a worse statement.  This is the same fool who said, &#8220;homosexuality is not the same as normal sex, in the same way that anorexia is not a normal appetite.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If God exists, maybe he could provide a punishment for someone who utters such nonsense,&#8221; said Rudy Demotte, prime minister of Belgium&#8217;s southern Wallonia region.</p>
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		<title>By: Seraphiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seraphiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So their position is that we should  take advice about sex from people who would be celibate if they didn&#039;t spend so much time raping children.

How about... no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So their position is that we should  take advice about sex from people who would be celibate if they didn&#8217;t spend so much time raping children.</p>
<p>How about&#8230; no.</p>
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		<title>By: elaygee</title>
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		<dc:creator>elaygee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who the cares what men who wear frilly dresses, gaudy jewelry and patent leather pumps say, especially when they have an &quot;all powerful&quot; imaginary friend who guides them thru his magic book of fairy tales?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who the cares what men who wear frilly dresses, gaudy jewelry and patent leather pumps say, especially when they have an &#8220;all powerful&#8221; imaginary friend who guides them thru his magic book of fairy tales?</p>
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		<title>By: Franck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope he doesn&#039;t mean that the AIDS-triggered, premature deaths of millions in Africa - Christians and non-Christians, adults and especially &lt;i&gt;children&lt;/i&gt; - is some kind of justice. I would be tempted to ask him if it has something to do with Africa being so homophobic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope he doesn&#8217;t mean that the AIDS-triggered, premature deaths of millions in Africa &#8211; Christians and non-Christians, adults and especially <i>children</i> &#8211; is some kind of justice. I would be tempted to ask him if it has something to do with Africa being so homophobic.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Whom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Whom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why so many people have such a hard time accepting the Roman Catholic institution&#039;s teaching authority on sexual morality.  Something about specks, beams, and eyes comes to mind, as does something about knowing every tree by its fruit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why so many people have such a hard time accepting the Roman Catholic institution&#8217;s teaching authority on sexual morality.  Something about specks, beams, and eyes comes to mind, as does something about knowing every tree by its fruit.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonardo Ricardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonardo Ricardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Archbishop ought bury his head, in shame, in a more enligtening book...his fictional blame-spreading won´t cover up his desperation...more lies won´t cure his spiritual illness (not to mention lack of moral authority)...the whole of the Roman ¨blockade¨ of truth degenerates reality to fit some idealistic notion of twisted right vs. wrong...cowards all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Archbishop ought bury his head, in shame, in a more enligtening book&#8230;his fictional blame-spreading won´t cover up his desperation&#8230;more lies won´t cure his spiritual illness (not to mention lack of moral authority)&#8230;the whole of the Roman ¨blockade¨ of truth degenerates reality to fit some idealistic notion of twisted right vs. wrong&#8230;cowards all.</p>
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