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	<title>Comments on: Co Senate Candidate: &#8220;You Have A Choice&#8221; To Be Gay; Focus Agrees</title>
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		<title>By: Steve from Colorado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve from Colorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken Buck has so far refused to back down on his statements suggesting that being gay is a choice and that homosexuality is in some way akin to an addiction like alcoholism. 
He is betting that his tough man stance and his unwillingness to back away from controversial statements will make him stand out among other office seekers. I believe he hopes that this type of offensive speech will portray him as a true individualist who will bring change to Washington.
He very well may appeal to many of the rednecks who inhabit Colorado.  Unfortunately, there are many in this state who are afraid to voice his thoughts but fully support his point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken Buck has so far refused to back down on his statements suggesting that being gay is a choice and that homosexuality is in some way akin to an addiction like alcoholism.<br />
He is betting that his tough man stance and his unwillingness to back away from controversial statements will make him stand out among other office seekers. I believe he hopes that this type of offensive speech will portray him as a true individualist who will bring change to Washington.<br />
He very well may appeal to many of the rednecks who inhabit Colorado.  Unfortunately, there are many in this state who are afraid to voice his thoughts but fully support his point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mikeksf wrote,

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d also like to know if there’s a hetro reparative group for those who want to experience their true gay self. The counterpart of Exodus, except more fabulous and fun and liberating.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I suspect there have been some people who, after signing up with Exodus, take one look at Randy, and say, &lt;i&gt;&quot;Oh my, I didn&#039;t realize this was a &lt;b&gt;hetero&lt;/b&gt; reparative group.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mikeksf wrote,</p>
<blockquote><p>I’d also like to know if there’s a hetro reparative group for those who want to experience their true gay self. The counterpart of Exodus, except more fabulous and fun and liberating.</p></blockquote>
<p>I suspect there have been some people who, after signing up with Exodus, take one look at Randy, and say, <i>&#8220;Oh my, I didn&#8217;t realize this was a <b>hetero</b> reparative group.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: Timothy (TRiG)</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/10/19/27430/comment-page-1#comment-81312</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy (TRiG)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 19:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mikeksf, Tim Minchin was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSfSV5BSZ2g&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;looking for&lt;/a&gt; a group like that.

TRiG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mikeksf, Tim Minchin was <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSfSV5BSZ2g" rel="nofollow">looking for</a> a group like that.</p>
<p>TRiG.</p>
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		<title>By: mikeksf</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeksf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I&#039;ve had this discussion I always like the &quot;tell me about your choice and how you made it&quot; inquiry.  It always provokes the best responses.

I&#039;d also like to know if there&#039;s a  hetro reparative  group for those who want to experience their true gay self.  The counterpart of Exodus, except more fabulous and fun and liberating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I&#8217;ve had this discussion I always like the &#8220;tell me about your choice and how you made it&#8221; inquiry.  It always provokes the best responses.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to know if there&#8217;s a  hetro reparative  group for those who want to experience their true gay self.  The counterpart of Exodus, except more fabulous and fun and liberating.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;as long as you do do your wife.&quot;

 Or your mistress, or luggage lifter, etc. It&#039;s not WHO you have sex with, it is that you have a wife. And if you happen to happen to have it with a dude, make sure you still have a wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;as long as you do do your wife.&#8221;</p>
<p> Or your mistress, or luggage lifter, etc. It&#8217;s not WHO you have sex with, it is that you have a wife. And if you happen to happen to have it with a dude, make sure you still have a wife.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve from Colorado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve from Colorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent an email to Mr. Buck asking him to provide me with the date on which he chose to be straight and why he made this all important, life changing decision at that particular time. So far no response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent an email to Mr. Buck asking him to provide me with the date on which he chose to be straight and why he made this all important, life changing decision at that particular time. So far no response.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/10/19/27430/comment-page-1#comment-81238</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just more of the &quot;gay is behavior&quot; meme, this time with a proviso that is supposed to cut the sting out of any biological basis for SSA.

They&#039;re not saying that SSA is a choice. They acknowledged that, like alcoholism, some people may be born with a predisposition towards SSA (not him, of course). But if you have &quot;it&quot;, you don&#039;t have to act on &quot;it&quot;...the same way you don&#039;t have to act on your alcoholism. This is secular &quot;love the sinner, hate the sin&quot; sort of stuff.

Apparently, he tried to explain himself to reporters news, &quot;I am not a biologist and I haven&#039;t studied the issue, but that&#039;s my opinion,&quot; Buck said. &quot;I wasn&#039;t talking about being gay as a disease. I don&#039;t think that at all and I hope that no one would be that insensitive to try to draw that...I certainly didn&#039;t mean it that way.&quot;

But how else can you possibly construe it? If it&#039;s not a disease, then you&#039;re saying it&#039;s certainly wrong, right? And if it&#039;s a predisposition you&#039;re born with but shouldn&#039;t act on, then why should &quot;it&quot; have civil rights protections.

And by spinning the debate this way, the Wingnuts are able to talk out every orifice of their body. &quot;Ex-gay&quot; is simply not doing gay stuff...you can have gay thoughts...you can even fantasize about Brad Pitt while you have your twice yearly sex with your wife...as long as you do do  your wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just more of the &#8220;gay is behavior&#8221; meme, this time with a proviso that is supposed to cut the sting out of any biological basis for SSA.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re not saying that SSA is a choice. They acknowledged that, like alcoholism, some people may be born with a predisposition towards SSA (not him, of course). But if you have &#8220;it&#8221;, you don&#8217;t have to act on &#8220;it&#8221;&#8230;the same way you don&#8217;t have to act on your alcoholism. This is secular &#8220;love the sinner, hate the sin&#8221; sort of stuff.</p>
<p>Apparently, he tried to explain himself to reporters news, &#8220;I am not a biologist and I haven&#8217;t studied the issue, but that&#8217;s my opinion,&#8221; Buck said. &#8220;I wasn&#8217;t talking about being gay as a disease. I don&#8217;t think that at all and I hope that no one would be that insensitive to try to draw that&#8230;I certainly didn&#8217;t mean it that way.&#8221;</p>
<p>But how else can you possibly construe it? If it&#8217;s not a disease, then you&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s certainly wrong, right? And if it&#8217;s a predisposition you&#8217;re born with but shouldn&#8217;t act on, then why should &#8220;it&#8221; have civil rights protections.</p>
<p>And by spinning the debate this way, the Wingnuts are able to talk out every orifice of their body. &#8220;Ex-gay&#8221; is simply not doing gay stuff&#8230;you can have gay thoughts&#8230;you can even fantasize about Brad Pitt while you have your twice yearly sex with your wife&#8230;as long as you do do  your wife.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What IS it about straight people, that, with a straight face, will debate gay people about choosing or not?

  How do they get to think they can argue or decide or declare what a gay person thinks, feels, intends or can, regardless of what the gay folks have to say about it however honestly and factually?

   A person with no medical training,nor experience as a surgeon, would argue with one, can&#039;t argue that they know more about surgery than said doctor.

  So how can a person, with NO experience or understanding or in depth relationships with gay people, keep talking as if more knowledgeable about what being gay is?

 Or that it&#039;s a choice?

  This is the most mind boggling and STUPIDEST thing I keep seeing over and over again.

  I never tell a man what it&#039;s like to have testicles and a man would look like an idiot lecturing me that he knows more about cramps than I do.

 And yes, I tell straight people they DO look like idiots arguing in this way, for the aforementioned reasons I give.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What IS it about straight people, that, with a straight face, will debate gay people about choosing or not?</p>
<p>  How do they get to think they can argue or decide or declare what a gay person thinks, feels, intends or can, regardless of what the gay folks have to say about it however honestly and factually?</p>
<p>   A person with no medical training,nor experience as a surgeon, would argue with one, can&#8217;t argue that they know more about surgery than said doctor.</p>
<p>  So how can a person, with NO experience or understanding or in depth relationships with gay people, keep talking as if more knowledgeable about what being gay is?</p>
<p> Or that it&#8217;s a choice?</p>
<p>  This is the most mind boggling and STUPIDEST thing I keep seeing over and over again.</p>
<p>  I never tell a man what it&#8217;s like to have testicles and a man would look like an idiot lecturing me that he knows more about cramps than I do.</p>
<p> And yes, I tell straight people they DO look like idiots arguing in this way, for the aforementioned reasons I give.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such ignorance!

I&#039;m voting for Bennet here in Colorado.  I&#039;m also aprising everyone I know of this man&#039;s ignorance, and advising them to vote for Bennet as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such ignorance!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m voting for Bennet here in Colorado.  I&#8217;m also aprising everyone I know of this man&#8217;s ignorance, and advising them to vote for Bennet as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob San Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob San Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So that&#039;s why I find I need to be drunk to have sex with another guy. That would also explain why I need to be high to have sex with my dog or dead relative. It all makes sense now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So that&#8217;s why I find I need to be drunk to have sex with another guy. That would also explain why I need to be high to have sex with my dog or dead relative. It all makes sense now.</p>
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