Comments on: Guess who inspired Walter Schumm’s bogus “research”?

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 22:46:20 +0000

Lesbians! Stop giving so many hugs! You’re causing a hug increase.

By: Jason D

Jason D — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:22:54 +0000

Tatu, seriously? Hello 2001, how have you been?

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:00:00 +0000

Jerry said “According to a Reuters study 15% of women say they are lesbian or bisexual nowadays, this is a hug increase from 20 years ago when it was around 2%.”.

I find that highly unlikely. Let’s see a link to this alleged study.

By: jerry

jerry — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:03:19 +0000

What’s amazing to me is nobody mentions the influence of the media. It’s always the “parents”. A child’s parents are not the only influence in life, it’s also pop stars, TV, movies, magazines, music and social circles influenced by these things. What’s the chic thing to be today? LESBIANISM! How about Katy Perry; Lady Gaga; talk shows (which prominently feature lesbians); many female stars kissing publicly and declaring their “bisexuality”; The “L” Word; TATU; Many movies and TV series that have young lesbians or bisexual women and combine male bashing with lesbian characters. Most of these are aimed toward young females and many underage girls see these messages growing up.
This study doesn’t shy from pointing out there’s is a difference between male homosexuals and female homosexuals: It’s more common for women to become gay these days. What do you think is affecting them? There is a hug increase in women declaring homosexual impulses. According to a Reuters study 15% of women say they are lesbian or bisexual nowadays, this is a hug increase from 20 years ago when it was around 2%. How does that happen? The male percentage is the same as it was 20 years ago, around 3 or 4%. Why the increase in exclusively women? Underage girls are being targeted by homosexual messages and are clearly being influenced by them. This is wrong and underage girls shouldn’t be manipulated in this way by older females with homosexual impulses and a media tryng to profit off promoting homosexuality in young women.

By: grantdale

grantdale — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:28:09 +0000

Timothy (hopefully much refreshed!)

I think it may instead be a reference to this post.

“When you think about it, it would be very strange if there were no statistical differences in the sexual orientation of adult children of gay parents when compared to those of heterosexual parents.”

Of course, that’s not all Jim had to say; but Schumm seems little troubled by such pesky details.

As that now 4.5 year old post helps show, the Journal of Biosocial Science has form on this issue and plainly has a careless relationship with the efforts of one Paul Cameron. I can only assume that whatever standards they hold themselves to, those standards do not preclude publishing someone dismissed for an ethics violation in the particular field of ‘research’.

Rather an unfortunate thing to note, if one was a genuine researcher and had sought publication in that particular journal. Fair warning for others, I guess.

(By way of a belated update: at that time we also contacted — directly — an co-editor of the journal, based in Perth I think, and got a reply but also drew a big goose egg as regards any satisfactory response. Given I have oodles of time to waste, and lambing season is now well over, I still may try my luck again on this occasion of further outrage.)

By: werdna

werdna — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:12:30 +0000

I’m curious about a discrepancy in Schumm’s description of his study in the MetroCatholic article and in the abstract for the Journal of Biosocial Science article. In the MC piece he refers to “data obtained from 26 studies,” but the abstract refers to “[t]en narrative studies.” What are the other 16 studies and how did they figure into his analysis?

By: Jason D

Jason D — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 13:51:34 +0000

I’m really not buying the distant father theory in the slightest anymore.

While parents do serve as a role model for social interaction and relationship dynamics, it seems ridiculously farfetched to suggest the imprint their own sexual tastes onto their children — especially through non-sexual activities and displays.

It also seems bizarre that such a vital component of our species: sex, would be left up to the indirect teachings of parents. Considering recorded history has the father being more distant and more likely to leave or be killed than the mother, shouldn’t the great majority of men be gay?

By: Jack Giles

Jack Giles — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:26:09 +0000

Yeah, my partner’s teenage daughter (she says she is bisexual) laid this on me yesterday. Her mother, keeps telling her that she is just confused because “we”, her father and I are influencing her. Because we are permitting this 17 yr old to explore her sexuality without condemnation. I’m calling bullsh*t on this, but really how can I stop her from talking to her mom? I can’t. I can only assure the girl, that she is loved and I have her back if she needs me. I find it upsetting that I have to face bigotry in my own home.

By: dave

dave — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:14:29 +0000

So in other words, these people with gay children are most likely gay themselves and are just pretending to be straight?

By: Amicus

Amicus — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 04:00:08 +0000

Yawn. Schumm has a cover story to paper over the real motives for his activities. Meh.