Comments on: Nightline features Journey Into Manhood tonight

By: Bart

Bart — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 03:17:44 +0000

For those who didn’t watch the show here’s another take: I watched it, but did everyone get that although he got married (yawn), his wife pregnant (yawn 2), they share checking out other guys together? and she encourages him to be open about it? In other words, after all that, he didn’t change at all, he’s just found another willing partner to share in his passion for men! Now he gets to go hundreds of miles away from his wife and feel the touch and embrace of several men without the presence of women. They are holding on to each other for dear life hoping for something. Truly sad. If you’re truly straight, you don’t go out with your girlfriend, wife, or gay friends lusting after other men.

I would modify Frijondi’s suggestion with all due respect: “New T-shirt — “I journeyed into manhood, and all I got was this spectacular HARD-ON.”

Message: Be happy with your orientation and life experience.

By: andrew

andrew — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 07:36:07 +0000

Does this group bear any relatioship to “Boys to Men” (not the boyband, but a men’s group thingie someone I know belongs to).

By: John in the Bay Area

John in the Bay Area — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 16:03:41 +0000

I watched the segment. It was pretty clear in the segment that “Preston” (the Utah guy) was still gay. At the end of the segment, the pregnant wife is talking about how both she and her husband are scoping out guys while driving down the street. I am sure that every good Mormon girl dreams about scoping out guys with her husband after their temple ceremony. Utter fail.

By: BlackDog

BlackDog — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 16:02:17 +0000

@ JustSearching

Ack, I only made it about halfway through that article before I had to stop reading, it hella creeped me out.

That dude is a better man than me, I’d of run out of there like somebody lit my ass on fire.

By: Fergie

Fergie — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 15:30:01 +0000

I watched Nightline and cringed. It was so brief and superficial that it just ended up being a commercial for Rich Wyler and People Can Change. The takeaway for the average uninformed Middle American was gays could change if they only wanted to.

Nightline (which I usually enjoy) focused on one obviously hand picked photogenic poster boy with an attractive young wife in suburban Salt Lake City (spoiler alert..the big final reveal was she’s pregnant…so yes Red State America, he is cured from the gay, and having sex with women!).

Why didn’t ABC ask how many men drop out of the program; or demand to see the programs statistics of success? It was all so one sided that it was pointless.

Fake, untested “therapies” administered by unlicensed hacks to emotionally unstable and religiously conflicted men is a serious story, and five minutes on late night doesn’t cut it.

By: cowboy

cowboy — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 15:00:25 +0000

I missed the ABC Nightline presentation…though I’m sure I can get it online somewhere. But, we had our local Utah FOX channel start last night a series of “Gays Can Change or Not” news items (with the focus on the Mormons).

It must be sweeps week.

oh, and by the way, a recent Salt Lake Tribune poll found 55% of Utah Mormons believe gays can change. I just wish they had a poll done before the General Conference speech of Elder Packer. What affect did Elder Packer’s rant about God didn’t make us gay had an influence on the opinions of certain people?

When a religion starts to ignore science it tends to bend towards cultism.

By: Ivan

Ivan — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 13:33:43 +0000

“Journey Into Manhood”

Freud lived too soon.

By: Emily K

Emily K — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 13:26:21 +0000

depends what kind of “exposure” you mean.

By: Ben Mathis

Ben Mathis — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 11:09:19 +0000

Shame you can’t watch it online outside the US. Anyone found a summary of the episode online somewhere?

By: justsearching

justsearching — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:46:28 +0000

If you’re interested in a detailed description provided by a straight guy who went undercover into a “Journey into Manhood” retreat, check out the following link: http://www.alternet.org/story/146557/?page=entire

There’s some pretty amusing stuff in there.