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	<title>Comments on: Ex-gay survivor and former Living Waters client Christine Bakke engaged</title>
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		<title>By: wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine and Theresa are my dear friends and I&#039;m looking forward to celebrating with them in January. 

Box Frog, normally I&#039;m known to be the sweet Canadian peace-maker, bridge-builder .... but frankly I&#039;m rather nauseated by your cheap attempt at attention by co-opting a celebrative announcement.  Clearly, your words will carry no influence in this forum .... and you therefore reveal yourself to be an attention seeker and a rather pathetic one at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine and Theresa are my dear friends and I&#8217;m looking forward to celebrating with them in January. </p>
<p>Box Frog, normally I&#8217;m known to be the sweet Canadian peace-maker, bridge-builder &#8230;. but frankly I&#8217;m rather nauseated by your cheap attempt at attention by co-opting a celebrative announcement.  Clearly, your words will carry no influence in this forum &#8230;. and you therefore reveal yourself to be an attention seeker and a rather pathetic one at that.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats to Christine and Theresa! 

I&#039;ve known WAYYYY many more promiscuous straight men promiscuous gay people, box frog. Maybe you just hang out with atypical gay people? 

Gay people don&#039;t do very much that straights don&#039;t also do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats to Christine and Theresa! </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve known WAYYYY many more promiscuous straight men promiscuous gay people, box frog. Maybe you just hang out with atypical gay people? </p>
<p>Gay people don&#8217;t do very much that straights don&#8217;t also do.</p>
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		<title>By: WMDKitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>WMDKitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 04:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just poking my  head out to offer congratulations to the happy couple -- may they have many happy years together.</description>
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		<title>By: Ben in Atlanta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Atlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to Christine and Theresa.

I once asked the members of a Usenet Newsgroup of mostly heterosexual musicians that seemed to want to believe the worst about me how much time they spent in the pursuit of sex. All of the ones that bothered to reply all seemed obsessed with it. I told them my life would make for some really boring reality TV. Sometimes I feel like posting links to some of the kinkier straight sex on X-Tube. My position is that I don&#039;t have to behave any better or differently than anyone. I spend most of my free time between my church and community service because that&#039; what I want to do. And I still have a fairly firmly held opinion about how and why I became homeless at 16. At 55 I can say that it did get better for me and still is in every moment of the day.

http://www.slc-atlanta.org/category/video/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to Christine and Theresa.</p>
<p>I once asked the members of a Usenet Newsgroup of mostly heterosexual musicians that seemed to want to believe the worst about me how much time they spent in the pursuit of sex. All of the ones that bothered to reply all seemed obsessed with it. I told them my life would make for some really boring reality TV. Sometimes I feel like posting links to some of the kinkier straight sex on X-Tube. My position is that I don&#8217;t have to behave any better or differently than anyone. I spend most of my free time between my church and community service because that&#8217; what I want to do. And I still have a fairly firmly held opinion about how and why I became homeless at 16. At 55 I can say that it did get better for me and still is in every moment of the day.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slc-atlanta.org/category/video/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slc-atlanta.org/category/video/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Farrell/box frog said &quot;It is not loving to encourage someone to indulge in such activities, no matter how much sensual pleasure they may derive from them.&quot;

That you think this is all same sex relationships are about shows how profoundly ignorant you are.  Many same sex relationships have next to nothing to do with sex and people who only have sexual desire in common don&#039;t form relationships and get married.

By the same logic you apply to gays and lesbians black people and natives should be discouraged from forming relationships and having children because they have higher levels of mental illness, substance abuse, domestic violence, promiscuity and STDs.  As is the case with gays, this has nothing to do with a problem with being black, indian, or gay, its entirely due to the negative effects of discrmination and oppression by the majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Farrell/box frog said &#8220;It is not loving to encourage someone to indulge in such activities, no matter how much sensual pleasure they may derive from them.&#8221;</p>
<p>That you think this is all same sex relationships are about shows how profoundly ignorant you are.  Many same sex relationships have next to nothing to do with sex and people who only have sexual desire in common don&#8217;t form relationships and get married.</p>
<p>By the same logic you apply to gays and lesbians black people and natives should be discouraged from forming relationships and having children because they have higher levels of mental illness, substance abuse, domestic violence, promiscuity and STDs.  As is the case with gays, this has nothing to do with a problem with being black, indian, or gay, its entirely due to the negative effects of discrmination and oppression by the majority.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Farrell (aka box frog)

By all reports, gay Christians entering into a monogamous and committed relationship have significantly reduced expectations of promiscuity, sexually transmitted disease, mental illness and substance abuse than do those who enter programs designed to &quot;overcome&quot; same-sex attractions.

Especially promiscuity and sexually transmitted disease.  I&#039;ve read the studies and they consider progress what they call &quot;reduction in behaviors&quot; but which anyone else would call &quot;continuing to have sex with strangers, just less often&quot;.</description>
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<p>By all reports, gay Christians entering into a monogamous and committed relationship have significantly reduced expectations of promiscuity, sexually transmitted disease, mental illness and substance abuse than do those who enter programs designed to &#8220;overcome&#8221; same-sex attractions.</p>
<p>Especially promiscuity and sexually transmitted disease.  I&#8217;ve read the studies and they consider progress what they call &#8220;reduction in behaviors&#8221; but which anyone else would call &#8220;continuing to have sex with strangers, just less often&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mortanius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mortanius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting take box frog, I happen to associate sexual promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases, mental illness, substance abuse, and domestic violence with the heterosexual world more than I&#039;ve seen in the homosexual world. Maybe you should go out to some straight bars, as I have, and had any number of what you would call &quot;loose women&quot; willing to service me in the bar or go home to have unsafe sex, all the meantime getting drunk, smoking pot, and basically just looking for some hot sex. Trust me, homosexuals do not have the corner market on anything you have mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting take box frog, I happen to associate sexual promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases, mental illness, substance abuse, and domestic violence with the heterosexual world more than I&#8217;ve seen in the homosexual world. Maybe you should go out to some straight bars, as I have, and had any number of what you would call &#8220;loose women&#8221; willing to service me in the bar or go home to have unsafe sex, all the meantime getting drunk, smoking pot, and basically just looking for some hot sex. Trust me, homosexuals do not have the corner market on anything you have mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: box frog</title>
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		<dc:creator>box frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since homosexual conduct is associated with higher rates of sexual promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases, mental illness, substance abuse, and domestic violence, it too qualifies as a behavior that is harmful to the people who engage in it and to society at large. It is not loving to encourage someone to indulge in such activities, no matter how much sensual pleasure they may derive from them. It is more loving to help them overcome them. This is why we should continue to oppose any policy or action that would celebrate or affirm homosexual conduct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since homosexual conduct is associated with higher rates of sexual promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases, mental illness, substance abuse, and domestic violence, it too qualifies as a behavior that is harmful to the people who engage in it and to society at large. It is not loving to encourage someone to indulge in such activities, no matter how much sensual pleasure they may derive from them. It is more loving to help them overcome them. This is why we should continue to oppose any policy or action that would celebrate or affirm homosexual conduct.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What joyous news.  Congratulations to you both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What joyous news.  Congratulations to you both.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations, Christine!!

I&#039;m very happy for you and Theresa.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m very happy for you and Theresa.</p>
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