Comments on: Wherein I agree with Bryan Fischer about special rights

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Wed, 29 Dec 2010 22:57:59 +0000

I agree SA, straight solidiers were just as able to use DADT as an excuse to get out of the military – there was no advantage for gay and lesbian soldiers.

By: SA

SA — Wed, 29 Dec 2010 22:04:18 +0000

“But he’s right. One of the things that bothered me about the administration of DADT was that it truly did give unhappy gay and lesbians soldiers an advantage.”

How shameful of you Timothy Kincaid. As much as you try to hem and haw your way out of it with your qualifiers, it looks like Bryan Fischer has managed to hoodwink you into agreeing with him on some bogus point based on his completely inaccurate facts and logical fallacies. No matter how you want to try to twist it, there is no evidence to support the statement that DADT “truly did give unhappy gay and lesbian soldiers an advantage.”

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:35:08 +0000

Swampfox, what constitutes a threat of violence is open to debate. The fundamental rule of morality regarding self-defense is not.

By: Swampfox

Swampfox — Wed, 29 Dec 2010 00:10:50 +0000

“Swampfox, no one, no nation has a right to respond with violence when none has been threatened or undertaken first. That’s one of the most fundamental rules of morality.” – Priya Lynn

If one nation cuts off access to a vital resource to another nation or group of nations does the nation who is damaged have the right to go to war?

Do you believe as Trig who said, “I’m not at all convinced that anyone in the US military is honourable”?

I think it is great that gays and lesbians now have the right to serve openly in the United States Military, which I can only pray does more good for this world than bad. Let’s all celebrate the end of DADT.

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 23:19:16 +0000

Swampfox, no one, no nation has a right to respond with violence when none has been threatened or undertaken first. That’s one of the most fundamental rules of morality.

By: Swampfox

Swampfox — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 23:12:37 +0000

“Ahem… i think we are straying a bit from the topic. – Timothy Kincaid.”

I agree. We are just having a spat over what Trig said, “I’m not at all convinced that anyone in the US military is honourable. At least the Irish army is generally a peacekeaping force, not an invasion force. Our army works with the UN in the Lebanon and a few other places.”
I strongly disagree.

And, for those who only think a nation has the right to go to war because it is under attack, grow-up.

This will be my last post on this subject.

By: Jason D

Jason D — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 22:40:22 +0000

I went to college with an older student, a straight man who openly admitted to using DADT to get out of the service.

By: Timothy (TRiG)

Timothy (TRiG) — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 22:13:22 +0000

Dialling 911 wouldn’t do you much good in Ireland. We use 999 and 112, like the rest of the world.

TRiG.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:05:04 +0000

Ahem… i think we are straying a bit from the topic.

By: Jimmy

Jimmy — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 20:19:33 +0000

@Swampfox – The US lost the moral high ground the moment it unilaterally invaded Iraq, a nation that did not attack it. American exceptionalism vanished in that moment. If you don’t think that American’s view of themselves has not been damaged by the Iraq war, you are fooling yourself. All your jingoistic BS won’t change reality.

Here is where people like Fischer are no different from run of the mill right-wingers. Both are unable to accept objective reality.