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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 04:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do all of these tele-evangabitches shop at the same discount store for their TV clothes? These women are so tacky. It should let everyone watching know that it&#039;s all showbiz. These &quot;preachers&quot; have figured out how to get rich preaching that prosperity gospel - direct it toward the poor and stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do all of these tele-evangabitches shop at the same discount store for their TV clothes? These women are so tacky. It should let everyone watching know that it&#8217;s all showbiz. These &#8220;preachers&#8221; have figured out how to get rich preaching that prosperity gospel &#8211; direct it toward the poor and stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 04:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you people blind?  It is so obvious that there is a real connection here.  

Consider:  what evidence is there that these birds died because of DADT repeal?   Answer:  None.  Which rhymes with Nunn.  Who made DADT happen in the first place.  How can this possibly be a &quot;coincidence&quot;?

BTW, check out her vids on Youtube where she teams up with Lou Engel.  It&#039;s double the crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you people blind?  It is so obvious that there is a real connection here.  </p>
<p>Consider:  what evidence is there that these birds died because of DADT repeal?   Answer:  None.  Which rhymes with Nunn.  Who made DADT happen in the first place.  How can this possibly be a &#8220;coincidence&#8221;?</p>
<p>BTW, check out her vids on Youtube where she teams up with Lou Engel.  It&#8217;s double the crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine having to grasp at straws like this to justify your god?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine having to grasp at straws like this to justify your god?</p>
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		<title>By: BlackDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlackDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Or is Cindy Jacobs just a scam artist? After all, religion is a scam artist’s best friend.&quot;

She&#039;s a Pentecostal, in that particular branch of Christianity the line between &quot;Preacher&quot; and &quot;Scam Artist&quot; can be very, very fine indeed.

&quot;Please tell me she’s from a cable community access channel…&quot;

I could, but I&#039;d be lying, there are people (though they&#039;re often a bit unhinged themselves) who take her seriously.

&quot;I’ve never heard of this woman before. Is she of any prominence in the evangelical community? Because she seriously sounds insane, and not in the fun “Sarah Palin is crazy!” way, but genuinely mentally ill.&quot;

That&#039;s not an uncommon reaction among those who are unfamiliar with the Pentecostal subculture, unfortunately, I used to be married to a woman who actually considered Cindy Jacobs to be a &quot;Prophet.&quot; Yes, my ex wife does have a diagnosed mental disorder. I&#039;m not sure about Cindy Jacobs, though.

The bad news is, people actually DO believe this crap.

The good news is most people think &quot;Where the hell do they come up with this crap?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Or is Cindy Jacobs just a scam artist? After all, religion is a scam artist’s best friend.&#8221;</p>
<p>She&#8217;s a Pentecostal, in that particular branch of Christianity the line between &#8220;Preacher&#8221; and &#8220;Scam Artist&#8221; can be very, very fine indeed.</p>
<p>&#8220;Please tell me she’s from a cable community access channel…&#8221;</p>
<p>I could, but I&#8217;d be lying, there are people (though they&#8217;re often a bit unhinged themselves) who take her seriously.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’ve never heard of this woman before. Is she of any prominence in the evangelical community? Because she seriously sounds insane, and not in the fun “Sarah Palin is crazy!” way, but genuinely mentally ill.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not an uncommon reaction among those who are unfamiliar with the Pentecostal subculture, unfortunately, I used to be married to a woman who actually considered Cindy Jacobs to be a &#8220;Prophet.&#8221; Yes, my ex wife does have a diagnosed mental disorder. I&#8217;m not sure about Cindy Jacobs, though.</p>
<p>The bad news is, people actually DO believe this crap.</p>
<p>The good news is most people think &#8220;Where the hell do they come up with this crap?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: justsearching</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsearching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, it&#039;s not just nut-jobs like this woman who make these sort of associations. John Piper is a great orator, a bright Biblical scholar, and a well-known pastor and author. Despite this, back in 2009 he saw a connection between the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America&#039;s decision to allow openly gay individuals to be part of the clergy and a tornado that hit the area.
http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/the-tornado-the-lutherans-and-homosexuality

If you believe God can and does communicate to man through nature, then you look for signs of His communication everywhere. You&#039;d think the omnipotent omniscient God that Piper believes in could be a bit clearer in his messages. 
If I had seem chasms openings up in the earth and devouring all those wrong-minded Lutherans, or a swarm of snakes to poison all those who didn&#039;t hate gays, or a bear descending from a mountain to maul and destroy those who deserved it... in short, if I had seen some good ol&#039; fashion Old Testament Judgment, then I&#039;d think twice about my views about allowing gays to openly serve on the front lines of the military and clergy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, it&#8217;s not just nut-jobs like this woman who make these sort of associations. John Piper is a great orator, a bright Biblical scholar, and a well-known pastor and author. Despite this, back in 2009 he saw a connection between the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America&#8217;s decision to allow openly gay individuals to be part of the clergy and a tornado that hit the area.<br />
<a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/the-tornado-the-lutherans-and-homosexuality" rel="nofollow">http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/the-tornado-the-lutherans-and-homosexuality</a></p>
<p>If you believe God can and does communicate to man through nature, then you look for signs of His communication everywhere. You&#8217;d think the omnipotent omniscient God that Piper believes in could be a bit clearer in his messages.<br />
If I had seem chasms openings up in the earth and devouring all those wrong-minded Lutherans, or a swarm of snakes to poison all those who didn&#8217;t hate gays, or a bear descending from a mountain to maul and destroy those who deserved it&#8230; in short, if I had seen some good ol&#8217; fashion Old Testament Judgment, then I&#8217;d think twice about my views about allowing gays to openly serve on the front lines of the military and clergy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a lot of trouble writing off people like this as merely stupid, astounding as her observation is. Jacobs is not stupid, none of the people at her level in their wackadoodle movement are, or they have smarter people behind the scenes directing them. 

At no time do I believe that any of the tea party leaders actually really have the best intentions at heart for their nation, not with the dirty tricks and negative politics they use. It&#039;s all a power game to them. They are no less con artists than any glitzy televangelist and just as corrupt. They pander to the fears, prejudices and resentments of perhaps less savvy people, who hang on their every word. They&#039;re turning into America&#039;s Taliban.

I&#039;m not convinced that they even believe much of what they say to the rank and file in their movement. It&#039;s all about maintaining control of their base. We discount and underestimate Palin, Jacobs and all the rest of them them at the risk of our own doom.

But come on, she&#039;s contending that their &quot;loving&quot; god is taking out his wrath on birds? Why not mosquitoes? And what&#039;s with those anal beads around her neck?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a lot of trouble writing off people like this as merely stupid, astounding as her observation is. Jacobs is not stupid, none of the people at her level in their wackadoodle movement are, or they have smarter people behind the scenes directing them. </p>
<p>At no time do I believe that any of the tea party leaders actually really have the best intentions at heart for their nation, not with the dirty tricks and negative politics they use. It&#8217;s all a power game to them. They are no less con artists than any glitzy televangelist and just as corrupt. They pander to the fears, prejudices and resentments of perhaps less savvy people, who hang on their every word. They&#8217;re turning into America&#8217;s Taliban.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not convinced that they even believe much of what they say to the rank and file in their movement. It&#8217;s all about maintaining control of their base. We discount and underestimate Palin, Jacobs and all the rest of them them at the risk of our own doom.</p>
<p>But come on, she&#8217;s contending that their &#8220;loving&#8221; god is taking out his wrath on birds? Why not mosquitoes? And what&#8217;s with those anal beads around her neck?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 03:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t recall ever hearing Cindy or any of the other renowned religious nuts talk about all the tornadoes that go ripping through the Bible Belt year after year after year. No wonder. It must be embarrassing for them to acknowledge how God is punishing the most religious part of the country for failing to stop the rampant sin in the rest of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t recall ever hearing Cindy or any of the other renowned religious nuts talk about all the tornadoes that go ripping through the Bible Belt year after year after year. No wonder. It must be embarrassing for them to acknowledge how God is punishing the most religious part of the country for failing to stop the rampant sin in the rest of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 03:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never heard of this woman before. Is she of any prominence in the evangelical community?  Because she seriously sounds insane, and not in the fun &quot;Sarah Palin is crazy!&quot; way, but genuinely mentally ill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of this woman before. Is she of any prominence in the evangelical community?  Because she seriously sounds insane, and not in the fun &#8220;Sarah Palin is crazy!&#8221; way, but genuinely mentally ill.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob San Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob San Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 02:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like the nut heads at West Borrow Baptist Church, (minus the God hates fags part). I wonder if GOD is retro-active in his punishments, since he controls space and time, Katrina, 9/11, Asian tsunami, Chili &amp; Haiti earthquake all make sense, it&#039;s da gay&#039;s fault.

But then again, 9/11, Katrina, and the Asian tsunami all happened after the 2000 and 2004 elections where the republicans won. I wonder if God punished us for those elections?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the nut heads at West Borrow Baptist Church, (minus the God hates fags part). I wonder if GOD is retro-active in his punishments, since he controls space and time, Katrina, 9/11, Asian tsunami, Chili &amp; Haiti earthquake all make sense, it&#8217;s da gay&#8217;s fault.</p>
<p>But then again, 9/11, Katrina, and the Asian tsunami all happened after the 2000 and 2004 elections where the republicans won. I wonder if God punished us for those elections?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scripture says in Romans 1 that homosexuality is not allowed.
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Um, no. It&#039;s not merely a little no-no in Romans 1. &quot;Not allowed&quot; is more what you tell the children not to do when the baby is sleeping.

Romans 1:32 is the death sentence, So don&#039;t try and butter it up like you&#039;re scolding a child for cutting the lunch room line.  I realize the verse is about idolatry but it&#039;s being used far and wide to justify the literal death of gays by biblical authority.

Clear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scripture says in Romans 1 that homosexuality is not allowed.<br />
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<p>Um, no. It&#8217;s not merely a little no-no in Romans 1. &#8220;Not allowed&#8221; is more what you tell the children not to do when the baby is sleeping.</p>
<p>Romans 1:32 is the death sentence, So don&#8217;t try and butter it up like you&#8217;re scolding a child for cutting the lunch room line.  I realize the verse is about idolatry but it&#8217;s being used far and wide to justify the literal death of gays by biblical authority.</p>
<p>Clear?</p>
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