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	<title>Comments on: Scott Lively responds to David Kato&#8217;s murder</title>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 21:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William, I don&#039;t think anyone&#039;s ever suggested homophobes are always secretely gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William, I don&#8217;t think anyone&#8217;s ever suggested homophobes are always secretely gay.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are, I think, broadly two different types of homophobics. Type 1 are the knee-jerk types who just don’t know any better. They’ve simply absorbed the attitude from those (family, friends etc.) whom they grew up with, but they’re not obsessed with homosexuality, and except when the topic is brought to their attention they probably don’t think about it much from one year’s end to the other.

Type 2 are those who are truly obsessed and keep banging on about it on every possible and impossible occasion. Lively is a typical example. It’s not true that they’re always secretly gay themselves, although they may sometimes be. But they are generally pretty unsavoury characters in one way or another, and often have SOMETHING to hide. Here’s a good example:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351585/Stephen-Green-rails-immorality-voice-Christian-Britan-private-wife-beater-says-partner.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are, I think, broadly two different types of homophobics. Type 1 are the knee-jerk types who just don’t know any better. They’ve simply absorbed the attitude from those (family, friends etc.) whom they grew up with, but they’re not obsessed with homosexuality, and except when the topic is brought to their attention they probably don’t think about it much from one year’s end to the other.</p>
<p>Type 2 are those who are truly obsessed and keep banging on about it on every possible and impossible occasion. Lively is a typical example. It’s not true that they’re always secretly gay themselves, although they may sometimes be. But they are generally pretty unsavoury characters in one way or another, and often have SOMETHING to hide. Here’s a good example:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351585/Stephen-Green-rails-immorality-voice-Christian-Britan-private-wife-beater-says-partner.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351585/Stephen-Green-rails-immorality-voice-Christian-Britan-private-wife-beater-says-partner.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: justsearching</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/01/28/30125/comment-page-1#comment-88230</link>
		<dc:creator>justsearching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 04:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He might not be gay, but we do know that tests have shown that those who are more homophobic have been shown to be more likely to be aroused by same-sex nudity. Furthermore, there is a history of prominent anti-gay men turning out to be gay. And I don&#039;t think it&#039;s completely groundless to suggest that Lively&#039;s vile rhetoric could be tied into a sense of self-loathing. Lively has made a life out of presenting groundless speculation and falsehoods about other lives as fact; I think he deserves a bit of tentative speculation about his own life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He might not be gay, but we do know that tests have shown that those who are more homophobic have been shown to be more likely to be aroused by same-sex nudity. Furthermore, there is a history of prominent anti-gay men turning out to be gay. And I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s completely groundless to suggest that Lively&#8217;s vile rhetoric could be tied into a sense of self-loathing. Lively has made a life out of presenting groundless speculation and falsehoods about other lives as fact; I think he deserves a bit of tentative speculation about his own life.</p>
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		<title>By: a.mcewen</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/01/28/30125/comment-page-1#comment-88223</link>
		<dc:creator>a.mcewen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 01:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They said the same thing about Matthew Shepard&#039;s murder. Give them enough time and they all will be saying this about Kato&#039;s murder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They said the same thing about Matthew Shepard&#8217;s murder. Give them enough time and they all will be saying this about Kato&#8217;s murder.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackDog</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/01/28/30125/comment-page-1#comment-88206</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 20:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This dude had a convicted child molester running his coffee shop, didn&#039;t bother doing a background check and rationalized it when he found out.

Not a damn thing he does, no matter how evil or screwed up, is going to suprise me after that.

Dude&#039;s so low down he could walk under a snake standing up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This dude had a convicted child molester running his coffee shop, didn&#8217;t bother doing a background check and rationalized it when he found out.</p>
<p>Not a damn thing he does, no matter how evil or screwed up, is going to suprise me after that.</p>
<p>Dude&#8217;s so low down he could walk under a snake standing up.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/01/28/30125/comment-page-1#comment-88179</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have no reason whatsoever to assume that Scott Lively &quot;is gay himself.&quot;  It&#039;s rather unlikely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have no reason whatsoever to assume that Scott Lively &#8220;is gay himself.&#8221;  It&#8217;s rather unlikely.</p>
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		<title>By: JorgeC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JorgeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May God have mercy on his poor excuse for a soul.</description>
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		<title>By: EZam</title>
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		<dc:creator>EZam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Daily Show was too nice with this guy. He needs to go to Penn &amp; Teller&#039;s Bullshit to get the verbal beat down he deserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Daily Show was too nice with this guy. He needs to go to Penn &amp; Teller&#8217;s Bullshit to get the verbal beat down he deserves.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, I won&#039;t say that I&#039;ll argue with you on detecting something like that in people like him.
  But how can his selfishness and indulgence in this agenda make you want to claim him as one of you?

    In a way, he&#039;d be self fulfilling his own theory and at the same time it&#039;s so easy for the general population to indict ALL gay people for the deeds of the minority among you.

Gay people are even indicted for the evil deeds of STRAIGHT people, as I don&#039;t have to tell you.

   But, if the closeted ones are going to be so quick to reject gay people, gay people might consider denouncing those who are so egregious in the damage they are doing.
   They deserve to be pariahs. It&#039;s not so much, I know, that the Rekers and Ted Haggards of the world are being embraced, but essentially identified for what they are.

 It&#039;s a double tragedy how little the closet, and what it reaps, is still so misunderstood and misinterpreted as the character of gay people. Rather than the character of the closet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, I won&#8217;t say that I&#8217;ll argue with you on detecting something like that in people like him.<br />
  But how can his selfishness and indulgence in this agenda make you want to claim him as one of you?</p>
<p>    In a way, he&#8217;d be self fulfilling his own theory and at the same time it&#8217;s so easy for the general population to indict ALL gay people for the deeds of the minority among you.</p>
<p>Gay people are even indicted for the evil deeds of STRAIGHT people, as I don&#8217;t have to tell you.</p>
<p>   But, if the closeted ones are going to be so quick to reject gay people, gay people might consider denouncing those who are so egregious in the damage they are doing.<br />
   They deserve to be pariahs. It&#8217;s not so much, I know, that the Rekers and Ted Haggards of the world are being embraced, but essentially identified for what they are.</p>
<p> It&#8217;s a double tragedy how little the closet, and what it reaps, is still so misunderstood and misinterpreted as the character of gay people. Rather than the character of the closet.</p>
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		<title>By: justsearching</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsearching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall someone from the Daily Show interviewing Lively where the interviewer said &quot;that which you hate the most, you in fact are&quot; and Scott just had a blank look on his face for a second and then countered &quot;I&#039;m not gay.&quot; He reveals what he hates the most, and I seriously wouldn&#039;t be surprised if he&#039;s actually gay.

He theorizes that gays are monstrous violent sociopaths, but perhaps we can forgive him for generalizing based on his own experience of being gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall someone from the Daily Show interviewing Lively where the interviewer said &#8220;that which you hate the most, you in fact are&#8221; and Scott just had a blank look on his face for a second and then countered &#8220;I&#8217;m not gay.&#8221; He reveals what he hates the most, and I seriously wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if he&#8217;s actually gay.</p>
<p>He theorizes that gays are monstrous violent sociopaths, but perhaps we can forgive him for generalizing based on his own experience of being gay.</p>
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