Flawless? You must be joking.

Im sorry my friend, but you’re the one who’s in error here. Scroll up to your initial post, you’ll find in your commentary the following, “So much for any conception of liberty.” I think after reading that, it’s fair to say, I’m the one staying on point.

But ya know, as for what’s been said during our lil tit for tat, it’s your very last comment I find the most ripe for criticism. If you’ll go back to the very bottom of your last post, to where you say, “If we haven’t cleared this up by now, I doubt we ever will. Not much point in continuing.”

Well Rob, if you were trying to deter me by making a comment like that, you’ve failed.

Ya know, I’m imagining right now you’re a lil steamed; so let’s both chill for a minute here. I mean it’s not like it’s been a total loss. You did manage to clarify one thing. That being, when trying to advocate a partisan position, yours unfortunately, like much of the discourse coming from the Left, is “not up to scratch”.

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to Priya Lynn….

First of all, we’re not talking about adding numbers here…. I suggest if it was that easy, I think we can both agree the situation would have been rectified a long time ago.

Secondly, who’s hurting who? Nope, your proposition doesn’t hold water. I’m afraid you’ll have to come up with a better way to sell what you’re peddling.

Wrong -1) to be incorrect as in “It is wrong to say 2+2=5

2) to be immoral as in “it is wrong to hurt others” as in “It is wrong to prevent same sex couples from marrying”.

That attitude is what this post is about. The second two paragraphs of your last comment don’t address anthing in it, so I suspect you’re still trying to make me say things in this post that I didn’t say (not in this entry anyway).

If we haven’t cleared this up by now, I doubt we ever will. Not much point in continuing.

When you say in your thread, “so much for live and let live”, you’re obviously inferring some people are wrong to believe as they do about same sex marriage. Period.

Mr Tisinai… believe me when I say, “I hope you do get married.” But that doesn’t mean I’m agreeing with the way you’ve crafted the debate here. To tell you the truth, I would disagree with any proponent of same sex marriage who suggests, anything less than full capitulation to their demands is an affront to liberty.

Remember it’s one man one vote here. The mob doesn’t rule. Call me old fashioned, but ya know, I’ve always believed attraction works a helluva lot better than persuasion. What say you?

Nothing in this particular post says people are incorrect to think marriage should be between a man and a woman.

Nothing in this particular post says people are incorrect to think same-sex marriage should be banned.

Do you see that? If you don’t, then you’re not reading the post correctly.

The post is saying that (contrary to the wording of the poll question) people can think that marriage should be between a man a woman, while not wanting to make it into a law banning same-sex marriage for everyone.

In this post I never said anything like, “when someone believes marriage should be between a man and a woman, they’re wrong to also say same sex marriage should be banned for everyone”

What I’m saying is quite different: “When someone says they believe sex marriage should be between a man and a woman, the listener should not automatically infer they believe same sex marriage should be banned for everyone.”

You wrote, “I also think it’s foolish for some people to expect what is not customary to suddenly become the mores of the day.”

I don’t know what that has to do with the post.

I also don’t know what you mean by, “But Mr Tisinai, the alternative you’re offering is really no better… In fact it smacks of ambiguity. Sorry dude, but it serves no real purpose to keep reformulating a question till you finally get that singular response you need to validate your position.”

I’m certainly not trying to reformulate the question so my position gets validated. I don’t know where you got that from. The point of the post is that the either/or question posed by NOM’s pollsters is not in fact an either/or situation.

And then there’s this: “the people you are suggesting are “wrong” because of the way they feel about marriage.”

I don’t know where that came from. In this post I do not call people “wrong” because how they feel about marriage.

We’re at an impasse, Spartann. You seem to be replying to a post that has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Your obviously misinterpreting my position. First of all, I’m in no way attacking anyone’s moral compass. Having said that, I also think it’s foolish for some people to expect what is not customary to suddenly become the mores of the day.

Now according to what you’ve posted above, “when someone believes marriage should be between a man and a woman, they’re wrong to also say same sex marriage should be banned for everyone”…. But Mr Tisinai, the alternative you’re offering is really no better… In fact it smacks of ambiguity. Sorry dude, but it serves no real purpose to keep reformulating a question till you finally get that singular response you need to validate your position.

OK.. now I’d like you to humor me for just a little while longer. You can start off by defining the word “wrong”.

Kinda hard to do isn’t it?

Maybe because you’ll never be able to define something that subjective to anyone’s satisfaction… and certainly not to the people you are suggesting are “wrong” because of the way they feel about marriage?

Personally, I think everyone should wanna try marriage out … In fact, take it for a test drive so to speak…. That way you have some kind of idea whether it’s really what you’re seeking, before you actually do get hitched….. Sharing the love sounds pretty darn good in theory ya know.