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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 21:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate

&lt;blockquote&gt;Seriously. IS there a way to make lack of equality sound as scary as the “loss of all things wholesome and American” that the haters promise will happen if anti-gay legislation is repealed?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, there is.  And, seriously, it is already happening.

Have you noticed that NOM now has only two messages anymore?

1) I&#039;m not a bigot.  I&#039;m really not.  They&#039;re calling me a bigot.  See, they said I&#039;m a bigot but I&#039;m not. Mom, make the gays stop calling me a bigot!

2) And the black preachers all agree with me.  So marriage is not a civil rights issue.  It&#039;s not.  Look, here&#039;s a black preacher to tell you.  It&#039;s not civil rights! It&#039;s not!

Those both speak to the same thing.  NOM knows (and fears) that when people get comfortable enough with an idea to actually look at it, &quot;you can&#039;t be treated like me because of who you are&quot; sounds an awful lot like bias, animus, discrimination, and (though I don&#039;t use the word much) bigotry.

They also know (and fear) that the young&#039;ens already are past this issue and, furthermore, see it as shameful on the part of their parents.

And no one wants to be thought of as a bigot.  Especially by their kids.

And let me just say that when you&#039;re at a cocktail party in Los Angeles or New York, it may still be somewhat acceptable to be in favor of civil unions rather than marriage (though a bit suspect).  But &lt;i&gt;no one&lt;/i&gt; wants to be the guy saying, &quot;well, they are sinners and its a choice.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate</p>
<blockquote><p>Seriously. IS there a way to make lack of equality sound as scary as the “loss of all things wholesome and American” that the haters promise will happen if anti-gay legislation is repealed?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, there is.  And, seriously, it is already happening.</p>
<p>Have you noticed that NOM now has only two messages anymore?</p>
<p>1) I&#8217;m not a bigot.  I&#8217;m really not.  They&#8217;re calling me a bigot.  See, they said I&#8217;m a bigot but I&#8217;m not. Mom, make the gays stop calling me a bigot!</p>
<p>2) And the black preachers all agree with me.  So marriage is not a civil rights issue.  It&#8217;s not.  Look, here&#8217;s a black preacher to tell you.  It&#8217;s not civil rights! It&#8217;s not!</p>
<p>Those both speak to the same thing.  NOM knows (and fears) that when people get comfortable enough with an idea to actually look at it, &#8220;you can&#8217;t be treated like me because of who you are&#8221; sounds an awful lot like bias, animus, discrimination, and (though I don&#8217;t use the word much) bigotry.</p>
<p>They also know (and fear) that the young&#8217;ens already are past this issue and, furthermore, see it as shameful on the part of their parents.</p>
<p>And no one wants to be thought of as a bigot.  Especially by their kids.</p>
<p>And let me just say that when you&#8217;re at a cocktail party in Los Angeles or New York, it may still be somewhat acceptable to be in favor of civil unions rather than marriage (though a bit suspect).  But <i>no one</i> wants to be the guy saying, &#8220;well, they are sinners and its a choice.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 19:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voters are getting pissed that the GOP has NOT made any real progress with economic issues, but continued to play partisan politics to the point where nothing is getting done. Even their own supporters are losing steam. So switching back to scare politics is a sad but proven method to galvanize people who prefer emotion as a basis for decision making, because logic makes their heads hurt. I can only hope that the polls showing that a majority of Americans support marriage equality and other equality issues will translate to those people getting their complacent asses out of their chairs and voting to counteract the march to the polls that the wingnuts will orchestrate. 

Seriously. IS there a way to make lack of equality sound as scary as the &quot;loss of all things wholesome and American&quot; that the haters promise will happen if anti-gay legislation is repealed? (when they aren&#039;t threatening us with a Christian hell of fire and brimstone)

This makes me sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voters are getting pissed that the GOP has NOT made any real progress with economic issues, but continued to play partisan politics to the point where nothing is getting done. Even their own supporters are losing steam. So switching back to scare politics is a sad but proven method to galvanize people who prefer emotion as a basis for decision making, because logic makes their heads hurt. I can only hope that the polls showing that a majority of Americans support marriage equality and other equality issues will translate to those people getting their complacent asses out of their chairs and voting to counteract the march to the polls that the wingnuts will orchestrate. </p>
<p>Seriously. IS there a way to make lack of equality sound as scary as the &#8220;loss of all things wholesome and American&#8221; that the haters promise will happen if anti-gay legislation is repealed? (when they aren&#8217;t threatening us with a Christian hell of fire and brimstone)</p>
<p>This makes me sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 18:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeke,

In the last election the party deliberately refused to run on social issues, focusing instead on taxes, the economy, and other non-social priorities.  It worked rather well.

But what is going on at the RNC?  

It&#039;s like they said, &quot;hey, that focus on economic issues and downplaying social issues got us votes... so now let&#039;s do the opposite.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeke,</p>
<p>In the last election the party deliberately refused to run on social issues, focusing instead on taxes, the economy, and other non-social priorities.  It worked rather well.</p>
<p>But what is going on at the RNC?  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like they said, &#8220;hey, that focus on economic issues and downplaying social issues got us votes&#8230; so now let&#8217;s do the opposite.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TampaZeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaZeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 15:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you mean, &quot;...sudden shift BACK to social issues&quot;?

Please show me one second of one day since 1980 that they WEREN&#039;T focused on social issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you mean, &#8220;&#8230;sudden shift BACK to social issues&#8221;?</p>
<p>Please show me one second of one day since 1980 that they WEREN&#8217;T focused on social issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 14:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have nothing else to run on.</description>
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		<title>By: Lindoro Almaviva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindoro Almaviva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 05:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The RNC will always try to use Social Issues to bring the wedge (as exemplified in their attacks of Obama on Social issues, yet again). Apparently they have not understood that way too many people find the extreme far right  and their antics distasteful.

At one point or another all those appeals to &quot;the base&quot; will render way too many Republican politicians unelectable.

At least seems the younger ones are seeing the writing on the wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The RNC will always try to use Social Issues to bring the wedge (as exemplified in their attacks of Obama on Social issues, yet again). Apparently they have not understood that way too many people find the extreme far right  and their antics distasteful.</p>
<p>At one point or another all those appeals to &#8220;the base&#8221; will render way too many Republican politicians unelectable.</p>
<p>At least seems the younger ones are seeing the writing on the wall.</p>
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