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	<title>Comments on: Laurie Higgins hates the sinner</title>
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		<title>By: delbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>delbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 00:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Verses denouncing Homosexuality &amp; Abortion in Bible:(combined own study)60
 Verses with instruction to &quot;aid the needy&quot;,  Billy Graham says 250, Rick Warren: 914 
  Matthew 19:21 &quot;Give All to the poor - Jesus Christ&quot; 
  In Acts Chapter 2 verse 45, the Christians sold all their worldly goods and give the money to poor. Will anyone confront Ms. Higgins on these items?
   Anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verses denouncing Homosexuality &amp; Abortion in Bible:(combined own study)60<br />
 Verses with instruction to &#8220;aid the needy&#8221;,  Billy Graham says 250, Rick Warren: 914<br />
  Matthew 19:21 &#8220;Give All to the poor &#8211; Jesus Christ&#8221;<br />
  In Acts Chapter 2 verse 45, the Christians sold all their worldly goods and give the money to poor. Will anyone confront Ms. Higgins on these items?<br />
   Anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/04/15/31867/comment-page-1#comment-92588</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 03:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This ladyis just another nut case.  She has no meaning of what the Bible teaches.  She is another one that writes what she thinks her bible says is the right thing.JUST ANOTHER NUT CASE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This ladyis just another nut case.  She has no meaning of what the Bible teaches.  She is another one that writes what she thinks her bible says is the right thing.JUST ANOTHER NUT CASE!!!</p>
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		<title>By: KZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to confuse Laurie Higgins for Linda Harvey and vice versa.  Both women have the same initials and  spew the same ridiculous, anti-gay vitriol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to confuse Laurie Higgins for Linda Harvey and vice versa.  Both women have the same initials and  spew the same ridiculous, anti-gay vitriol.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/04/15/31867/comment-page-1#comment-92573</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PJB863,

Higgins is extremely protective of her own image.  While she prefers to pretend that her writing has no actual impact on the lives of others, she is paranoid about the impact it may have on her own.

But thanks for the reminder.  I revised the commentary to include one of the few pictures of her that are available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PJB863,</p>
<p>Higgins is extremely protective of her own image.  While she prefers to pretend that her writing has no actual impact on the lives of others, she is paranoid about the impact it may have on her own.</p>
<p>But thanks for the reminder.  I revised the commentary to include one of the few pictures of her that are available.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Atlanta</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/04/15/31867/comment-page-1#comment-92570</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben in Atlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 17:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If interested you can Google the origins of how this came to be and what is happening now.

Thump back.

http://www.mycathedral.org/index-14.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If interested you can Google the origins of how this came to be and what is happening now.</p>
<p>Thump back.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mycathedral.org/index-14.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mycathedral.org/index-14.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 16:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She and I wrote to each other recently. I told her my background and profession, yet...she seems to think she knows more about what bigotry is and the moral implications regarding race as opposed to sexual orientation.
Omitting of course the historical record, that one&#039;s race, gender, orientation or financial poverty have always been conflated with moral character and placed and recorded as deserving of discrimination.

     To challenge people like her on the cred treating another person as they&#039;d like to be treated, can&#039;t be asserted enough.
   WHICH people deserve to be exempt from that, as well as who prefers to never be held to that standard, is something that people like Higgins who claim the mantle of moral leader, fail time and time again.
   Their hypocrisy is easily pointed out, at the same time they avidly deny that&#039;s what&#039;s in play.

 There is an obvious contradiction to their embrace of Constitutional protection for THEIR chosen religious affiliation, why saying that chosen behaviors (which they decide is chosen even when it isn&#039;t) shouldn&#039;t be protected by the Constitution.

  Higgins is rarely in forums where these can be pointed out, and few mediators even in neutral forums bother to do so.
When the urgency of life or death, freedom or oppression is far more evident than it is for someone like Higgins, its only fair that our concerns have higher priority.

     Higgins represents the kind of people who insist on boundaries for gay people (and others), but none for Christians.
Human sacrifice, whether literal, figurative, political, societal or spiritual: is illegal.
Children especially cannot be the lambs for such slaughter.
  Where are all the cooler, smarter heads on this? They should be more in abundance by now.
Especially because of the publicity that the suicides of so many children got last fall.
  Higgins and her ilk deserve scorn for the hypocritical and morally bankrupt people they really are.
 That they themselves don&#039;t want to be held accountable for it, is another example of what moral cowards they continue to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She and I wrote to each other recently. I told her my background and profession, yet&#8230;she seems to think she knows more about what bigotry is and the moral implications regarding race as opposed to sexual orientation.<br />
Omitting of course the historical record, that one&#8217;s race, gender, orientation or financial poverty have always been conflated with moral character and placed and recorded as deserving of discrimination.</p>
<p>     To challenge people like her on the cred treating another person as they&#8217;d like to be treated, can&#8217;t be asserted enough.<br />
   WHICH people deserve to be exempt from that, as well as who prefers to never be held to that standard, is something that people like Higgins who claim the mantle of moral leader, fail time and time again.<br />
   Their hypocrisy is easily pointed out, at the same time they avidly deny that&#8217;s what&#8217;s in play.</p>
<p> There is an obvious contradiction to their embrace of Constitutional protection for THEIR chosen religious affiliation, why saying that chosen behaviors (which they decide is chosen even when it isn&#8217;t) shouldn&#8217;t be protected by the Constitution.</p>
<p>  Higgins is rarely in forums where these can be pointed out, and few mediators even in neutral forums bother to do so.<br />
When the urgency of life or death, freedom or oppression is far more evident than it is for someone like Higgins, its only fair that our concerns have higher priority.</p>
<p>     Higgins represents the kind of people who insist on boundaries for gay people (and others), but none for Christians.<br />
Human sacrifice, whether literal, figurative, political, societal or spiritual: is illegal.<br />
Children especially cannot be the lambs for such slaughter.<br />
  Where are all the cooler, smarter heads on this? They should be more in abundance by now.<br />
Especially because of the publicity that the suicides of so many children got last fall.<br />
  Higgins and her ilk deserve scorn for the hypocritical and morally bankrupt people they really are.<br />
 That they themselves don&#8217;t want to be held accountable for it, is another example of what moral cowards they continue to be.</p>
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		<title>By: PJB863</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJB863</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 16:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurie Higgins is currently IFI&#039;s most prolific contributor to their website, and as noted above, her writings are one of the main reasons SPLC designated IFI as a hate group.  The other main reason was writings by Peter LaBarbera, when he headed IFI several years ago. 

I find it interesting that it&#039;s exceedingly difficult to find any pictures of Higgins.  IFI posts none on its website.

She presented at LaBarbera&#039;s &quot;Truth Acadamy&quot; last summer, yet her portion of the presentation is available as audio-only, while the rest of the seminar (or whatever one wishes to call it) is available in both video and audio format.  I am not going to pay a dime to LaBarbera&#039;s AFTAH to find out what she said there, but I have found a YouTube video of Higgins presenting at another seminar.  Here&#039;s the link:  http://youtu.be/aKucR4Lcdy4.  The picture is a little grainy and nothing new is revealed here regarding her views that hasn&#039;t already been noted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurie Higgins is currently IFI&#8217;s most prolific contributor to their website, and as noted above, her writings are one of the main reasons SPLC designated IFI as a hate group.  The other main reason was writings by Peter LaBarbera, when he headed IFI several years ago. </p>
<p>I find it interesting that it&#8217;s exceedingly difficult to find any pictures of Higgins.  IFI posts none on its website.</p>
<p>She presented at LaBarbera&#8217;s &#8220;Truth Acadamy&#8221; last summer, yet her portion of the presentation is available as audio-only, while the rest of the seminar (or whatever one wishes to call it) is available in both video and audio format.  I am not going to pay a dime to LaBarbera&#8217;s AFTAH to find out what she said there, but I have found a YouTube video of Higgins presenting at another seminar.  Here&#8217;s the link:  <a href="http://youtu.be/aKucR4Lcdy4" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/aKucR4Lcdy4</a>.  The picture is a little grainy and nothing new is revealed here regarding her views that hasn&#8217;t already been noted.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 15:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did she take lessons from Fred Phelps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did she take lessons from Fred Phelps?</p>
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		<title>By: Amicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 05:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a person lost in thought, so to speak.

She doesn&#039;t appear to know what a &quot;moral norm&quot; is.

Deep seated &quot;gay&quot; attraction exists as a &#039;normal variant&#039;.  Yes, that is a fact.  Indeed, that makes it entirely appropriate to ask students not to shun, bully, harass, or degrade fellow gay students.

If she wants to teach that &quot;gay&quot; can be moral only insofar as it means celibacy, that is her (needlessly diminutive) private belief, to be taught in a comparative religions class, only.

If she wants to teach that &quot;gay&quot; is &quot;hellfire&quot; or something like addiction, then she&#039;s at odds with the facts of gay life, both as individuals and in society.

If she wants to teach that &quot;heterosexuality is morally superior to homosexuality&quot;, she&#039;s bumping up against the fact that gays finding other gays to make them fulfilled/happy (and committed/married) is an obvious moral good, evident even to the children.

If she wants to teach that it&#039;s wrong for nongays to have gay sex, and visa-versa, she&#039;ll have allies beyond her faith community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a person lost in thought, so to speak.</p>
<p>She doesn&#8217;t appear to know what a &#8220;moral norm&#8221; is.</p>
<p>Deep seated &#8220;gay&#8221; attraction exists as a &#8216;normal variant&#8217;.  Yes, that is a fact.  Indeed, that makes it entirely appropriate to ask students not to shun, bully, harass, or degrade fellow gay students.</p>
<p>If she wants to teach that &#8220;gay&#8221; can be moral only insofar as it means celibacy, that is her (needlessly diminutive) private belief, to be taught in a comparative religions class, only.</p>
<p>If she wants to teach that &#8220;gay&#8221; is &#8220;hellfire&#8221; or something like addiction, then she&#8217;s at odds with the facts of gay life, both as individuals and in society.</p>
<p>If she wants to teach that &#8220;heterosexuality is morally superior to homosexuality&#8221;, she&#8217;s bumping up against the fact that gays finding other gays to make them fulfilled/happy (and committed/married) is an obvious moral good, evident even to the children.</p>
<p>If she wants to teach that it&#8217;s wrong for nongays to have gay sex, and visa-versa, she&#8217;ll have allies beyond her faith community.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 04:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s typical fringe Catholic behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s typical fringe Catholic behavior.</p>
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