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	<title>Comments on: Transgender Customer Beaten at Baltimore McDonald&#8217;s As Employees Watch</title>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Werewolf, tranny got what she deserved for reminding you of your suppressed desires to change sexes, eh?  That&#039;s very upsetting, isn&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Werewolf, tranny got what she deserved for reminding you of your suppressed desires to change sexes, eh?  That&#8217;s very upsetting, isn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: sportsbook</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/04/22/32039/comment-page-2#comment-116197</link>
		<dc:creator>sportsbook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think WorldStarHipHop should stop posting these videos as it advocates violence. But one could argue that they bring problems to the forefront. What we do know is that they benefit from it financially and that isn&#039;t right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think WorldStarHipHop should stop posting these videos as it advocates violence. But one could argue that they bring problems to the forefront. What we do know is that they benefit from it financially and that isn&#8217;t right.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh, I hate that people just stood by too but I do not believe that they should be charged with accessory to assault. IMO, the girls wouldve done it without people sniggering in the background anyways. and not doing anything is a stretch to charge as an accessory too... Id only charge someone with accessory if they really actually helped with the crime. No stretches, or farfetched charges &gt;.&gt; . its just bologna sandwich to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh, I hate that people just stood by too but I do not believe that they should be charged with accessory to assault. IMO, the girls wouldve done it without people sniggering in the background anyways. and not doing anything is a stretch to charge as an accessory too&#8230; Id only charge someone with accessory if they really actually helped with the crime. No stretches, or farfetched charges &gt;.&gt; . its just bologna sandwich to me.</p>
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		<title>By: freetv</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/04/22/32039/comment-page-2#comment-97493</link>
		<dc:creator>freetv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 19:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that made me mad. sad what goes on in the world today...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that made me mad. sad what goes on in the world today&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 21:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t want to be in the same room let alone a restroom with the likes of Fraz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want to be in the same room let alone a restroom with the likes of Fraz.</p>
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		<title>By: Shofixti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shofixti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 21:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fraz, it&#039;s clear that you have a very strong connection with your sense of conventional gender and sex.
 
Gender isn&#039;t as cohesive as you would like it to be. What bathroom would you like a person with ambiguous or dual or undetermined genitals to use? Intersex people require bathrooms too.

You provide a very predatory explanation for transgender behaviour - well, we would all agree with you that predators require intervention but this is not the case in the McDonald&#039;s situation. 

You just need to take a quite moment to sit and listen to yourself. Perhaps when you see gender enacted differently you feel fear, or anger, or confusion. Gender is often the answer to a question, but when gender is called into question it may leave one feeling unsafe and unsure.

I&#039;m glad that you talk about empathy because it shows you really do have the tools with which to begin to access the way this victim sees the world. She doesn&#039;t deny that her genitals exist - gender is how someone participates in the world. The world she is in is hostile - what can we do to reduce that hostility?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraz, it&#8217;s clear that you have a very strong connection with your sense of conventional gender and sex.</p>
<p>Gender isn&#8217;t as cohesive as you would like it to be. What bathroom would you like a person with ambiguous or dual or undetermined genitals to use? Intersex people require bathrooms too.</p>
<p>You provide a very predatory explanation for transgender behaviour &#8211; well, we would all agree with you that predators require intervention but this is not the case in the McDonald&#8217;s situation. </p>
<p>You just need to take a quite moment to sit and listen to yourself. Perhaps when you see gender enacted differently you feel fear, or anger, or confusion. Gender is often the answer to a question, but when gender is called into question it may leave one feeling unsafe and unsure.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that you talk about empathy because it shows you really do have the tools with which to begin to access the way this victim sees the world. She doesn&#8217;t deny that her genitals exist &#8211; gender is how someone participates in the world. The world she is in is hostile &#8211; what can we do to reduce that hostility?</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 15:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fraz said &quot;If a man dressed as a woman followed my children into the rest room, I would follow very quickly and HE would be ejected even more quickly...I’m not “hatin” anyone by the way&quot;.

Transwomen have been using the ladies bathroom for decades without incident.  Your assumption that they are predators and determination to attack them is extreme hatred pure and simple.  You&#039;re a despicable person Fraz.

Fraz said &quot;I pointing to the stark reality of a broken Liberal society which can’t even recognise male from female. Is it any wonder people can’t associate their actions to that of a decent human, when even a clear cut issue such as gender is confusing some?&quot;.

To suggest that the existence of transpeople causes others to not know right from wrong is preposterous, blaming the victim, and yet another concrete example of the raging hatred that blinds you to common decency and morality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraz said &#8220;If a man dressed as a woman followed my children into the rest room, I would follow very quickly and HE would be ejected even more quickly&#8230;I’m not “hatin” anyone by the way&#8221;.</p>
<p>Transwomen have been using the ladies bathroom for decades without incident.  Your assumption that they are predators and determination to attack them is extreme hatred pure and simple.  You&#8217;re a despicable person Fraz.</p>
<p>Fraz said &#8220;I pointing to the stark reality of a broken Liberal society which can’t even recognise male from female. Is it any wonder people can’t associate their actions to that of a decent human, when even a clear cut issue such as gender is confusing some?&#8221;.</p>
<p>To suggest that the existence of transpeople causes others to not know right from wrong is preposterous, blaming the victim, and yet another concrete example of the raging hatred that blinds you to common decency and morality.</p>
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		<title>By: fraz1971</title>
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		<dc:creator>fraz1971</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 09:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;
 Second – we deperately need legal protections for them.&quot;

Thus men are no longer equal under the law!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;<br />
 Second – we deperately need legal protections for them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thus men are no longer equal under the law!</p>
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		<title>By: fraz1971</title>
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		<dc:creator>fraz1971</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 09:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should every pervert be allowed to dress as a woman and enter a rest room when your children are in there? I am not implying that the victim in the video is a pervert, I am pointing to the nonsense which can happen when rules of society are erroded.

If a man dressed as a woman followed my children into the rest room, I would follow very quickly and HE would be ejected even more quickly.

As for the staff watching this horrendous attack, who knows the background? If they intervened the savages boyfriends may have retaliated, drive-by shooting style.

What is worse is the lack of empathy for the MALE victim. &quot;She be havin seizures&quot;. Those retards even filmed their cowardice and lack of empathy.

The liberals here are commenting on the haters who are intollerant towards &quot;Transgenders&quot;. Look at what the attackers have done with all the &quot;tollerance&quot;.

Violence in the black community is a harsh reality and all the affirmative action in the world will not uplift some people.

Compare the events following hurricane Katrina and those following the earthquake in Japan. I&#039;m not &quot;hatin&quot; anyone by the way, I pointing to the stark reality of a broken Liberal society which can&#039;t even recognise male from female. Is it any wonder people can&#039;t associate their actions to that of a decent human, when even a clear cut issue such as gender is confusing some?

Is it any wonder that people can&#039;t act like human beings under such circumstances? Is it any wonder that FEMA camps are required?

The whole display on that video and all involved make me despair for mankind. We&#039;re going backwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should every pervert be allowed to dress as a woman and enter a rest room when your children are in there? I am not implying that the victim in the video is a pervert, I am pointing to the nonsense which can happen when rules of society are erroded.</p>
<p>If a man dressed as a woman followed my children into the rest room, I would follow very quickly and HE would be ejected even more quickly.</p>
<p>As for the staff watching this horrendous attack, who knows the background? If they intervened the savages boyfriends may have retaliated, drive-by shooting style.</p>
<p>What is worse is the lack of empathy for the MALE victim. &#8220;She be havin seizures&#8221;. Those retards even filmed their cowardice and lack of empathy.</p>
<p>The liberals here are commenting on the haters who are intollerant towards &#8220;Transgenders&#8221;. Look at what the attackers have done with all the &#8220;tollerance&#8221;.</p>
<p>Violence in the black community is a harsh reality and all the affirmative action in the world will not uplift some people.</p>
<p>Compare the events following hurricane Katrina and those following the earthquake in Japan. I&#8217;m not &#8220;hatin&#8221; anyone by the way, I pointing to the stark reality of a broken Liberal society which can&#8217;t even recognise male from female. Is it any wonder people can&#8217;t associate their actions to that of a decent human, when even a clear cut issue such as gender is confusing some?</p>
<p>Is it any wonder that people can&#8217;t act like human beings under such circumstances? Is it any wonder that FEMA camps are required?</p>
<p>The whole display on that video and all involved make me despair for mankind. We&#8217;re going backwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I realize hate and a desire to excuse the attack are the reasons you claim the transgender woman sexually propositioned her attackers and that you are not open to reason but that idea is absurd.&lt;/i&gt;

Agreed.

However, just for the sake of argument, let&#039;s suppose that the transwoman did ask the two girls for sex.

Can any moral personal seriously suggest that beating her violently is an &lt;i&gt;appropriate response&lt;/i&gt;?  Is that level of violence ever a legitimate response to a non-coercive sexual advance?

Because before someone seriously thinks about promoting such a notion, they might want to think of all the bars that could suddenly become littered with the broken, bleeding, and even dead bodies of heterosexual men.

Oh wait, that&#039;s where heterosexual male privilege comes in, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I realize hate and a desire to excuse the attack are the reasons you claim the transgender woman sexually propositioned her attackers and that you are not open to reason but that idea is absurd.</i></p>
<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>However, just for the sake of argument, let&#8217;s suppose that the transwoman did ask the two girls for sex.</p>
<p>Can any moral personal seriously suggest that beating her violently is an <i>appropriate response</i>?  Is that level of violence ever a legitimate response to a non-coercive sexual advance?</p>
<p>Because before someone seriously thinks about promoting such a notion, they might want to think of all the bars that could suddenly become littered with the broken, bleeding, and even dead bodies of heterosexual men.</p>
<p>Oh wait, that&#8217;s where heterosexual male privilege comes in, right?</p>
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