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	<title>Comments on: Bob Barr on conservatism</title>
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		<title>By: Raven Biker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven Biker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 12:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This man sees the light of American liberty and freedom without preaching his religion.  Amen. 

It&#039;s sad, even among gay people, that the concept of redemption resonates hollow.  This man further muddied his former relationships, personally and politically, by delivering this speech and probably has been ostracized.  Gay people ought to know what ostracization feels like and comments like Zeke&#039;s is pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This man sees the light of American liberty and freedom without preaching his religion.  Amen. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad, even among gay people, that the concept of redemption resonates hollow.  This man further muddied his former relationships, personally and politically, by delivering this speech and probably has been ostracized.  Gay people ought to know what ostracization feels like and comments like Zeke&#8217;s is pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 00:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeke,

He did lobby &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aclu.org/lgbt-rights_hiv-aids/testimony-submitted-bob-barr-former-member-congress-house-judiciary-committee-s&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;as early as 2005.&lt;/a&gt;  His testimony was significantly less &quot;evolved&quot; on the issue than it is today, but it was a start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeke,</p>
<p>He did lobby <a href="http://www.aclu.org/lgbt-rights_hiv-aids/testimony-submitted-bob-barr-former-member-congress-house-judiciary-committee-s" rel="nofollow">as early as 2005.</a>  His testimony was significantly less &#8220;evolved&#8221; on the issue than it is today, but it was a start.</p>
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		<title>By: TampaZeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaZeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 23:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until his dirty deeds of DADT and DOMA are completely wiped off the books I will continue to consider him an enormous douchebag.  He has done absolutely NOTHING to try to undo these laws other than putting out campaign scripts declaring his change of heart.  I&#039;ve seen no evidence that he has lobbied current congressmen or done anything else to repeal HIS laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until his dirty deeds of DADT and DOMA are completely wiped off the books I will continue to consider him an enormous douchebag.  He has done absolutely NOTHING to try to undo these laws other than putting out campaign scripts declaring his change of heart.  I&#8217;ve seen no evidence that he has lobbied current congressmen or done anything else to repeal HIS laws.</p>
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		<title>By: RWG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RWG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 21:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Our issue is whether the state will recognize and enforce this contract.&quot;

This has been my position on the struggle for equality for quite some time. The fact is, we already possess all the rights we need. The Constitution clearly provides for them, in fact, it guarantees them. The problem is that the government refuses to recognize those rights as they apply to GLBT citizens. Forcing them to fulfill the primary responsibility of government, to protect the rights of individuals, is the heart of our movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Our issue is whether the state will recognize and enforce this contract.&#8221;</p>
<p>This has been my position on the struggle for equality for quite some time. The fact is, we already possess all the rights we need. The Constitution clearly provides for them, in fact, it guarantees them. The problem is that the government refuses to recognize those rights as they apply to GLBT citizens. Forcing them to fulfill the primary responsibility of government, to protect the rights of individuals, is the heart of our movement.</p>
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		<title>By: enough already</title>
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		<dc:creator>enough already</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 20:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the shoe fits, American Citizen, wear it.

While you delight in such word games, we are persecuted, tortured, beaten, murdered. We are denied our human and civil rights.

This is a war.
It is absolutely &quot;us&quot; against &quot;them&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the shoe fits, American Citizen, wear it.</p>
<p>While you delight in such word games, we are persecuted, tortured, beaten, murdered. We are denied our human and civil rights.</p>
<p>This is a war.<br />
It is absolutely &#8220;us&#8221; against &#8220;them&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: American Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 19:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sweet words…but when push has come to shove, he has never stood with us.
Always against us.&quot;

Never.  Always.  Us (vs. Them?).
Such judgmental and divisive terms.  I assume you imply that &quot;us&quot; means gay people.  Barr talks of fundamental rights for the individual which includes everyone.

I agree that his former political agenda included some unjust policies.  But it is evident that he has modified his policies to legally protect us ALL equally.  He may not currently have a government platform to legislate from, but he is using his reputation and influence to steer the public discourse in the right direction.  For this I applaud him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sweet words…but when push has come to shove, he has never stood with us.<br />
Always against us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Never.  Always.  Us (vs. Them?).<br />
Such judgmental and divisive terms.  I assume you imply that &#8220;us&#8221; means gay people.  Barr talks of fundamental rights for the individual which includes everyone.</p>
<p>I agree that his former political agenda included some unjust policies.  But it is evident that he has modified his policies to legally protect us ALL equally.  He may not currently have a government platform to legislate from, but he is using his reputation and influence to steer the public discourse in the right direction.  For this I applaud him.</p>
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		<title>By: enough already</title>
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		<dc:creator>enough already</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 17:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet words...but when push has come to shove, he has never stood with us.
Always against us.

If he means it, let him prove it.

Otherwise...well, I enjoyed Rand when I was 12 or so.

Outgrew her shortly thereafter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet words&#8230;but when push has come to shove, he has never stood with us.<br />
Always against us.</p>
<p>If he means it, let him prove it.</p>
<p>Otherwise&#8230;well, I enjoyed Rand when I was 12 or so.</p>
<p>Outgrew her shortly thereafter.</p>
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