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	<title>Comments on: What we need is a gay politician</title>
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		<title>By: Marcvia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 06:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Mr. Kincaid, I guess you&#039;re reading more than enough examples of the problem you&#039;re talking about.

Ironically, Gordon Fox claims Winston Churchill as his role model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Mr. Kincaid, I guess you&#8217;re reading more than enough examples of the problem you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>Ironically, Gordon Fox claims Winston Churchill as his role model.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 16:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carla Drenner in Atlanta is an example of a gay politician. Came from the community, built her support in the community, championed gay rights, and then came to the statehouse downtown &amp; couldn&#039;t accomplish anything because she was essentially blacklisted by everyone except other inner-city congressmen. 

She&#039;s hit her max potential in GA, now in her 5th term, she runs unopposed, and is sort of forgotten about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carla Drenner in Atlanta is an example of a gay politician. Came from the community, built her support in the community, championed gay rights, and then came to the statehouse downtown &amp; couldn&#8217;t accomplish anything because she was essentially blacklisted by everyone except other inner-city congressmen. </p>
<p>She&#8217;s hit her max potential in GA, now in her 5th term, she runs unopposed, and is sort of forgotten about.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 15:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Cicilline of Rhode Island ran and won two terms as mayor of Providence as an openly gay man. Last year he ran and won a seat in the House of Representatives. I think there is also another representative who ran as openly gay. I don&#039;t remember the name or the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Cicilline of Rhode Island ran and won two terms as mayor of Providence as an openly gay man. Last year he ran and won a seat in the House of Representatives. I think there is also another representative who ran as openly gay. I don&#8217;t remember the name or the state.</p>
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		<title>By: Other Fred in the UK</title>
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		<dc:creator>Other Fred in the UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 06:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Jarred. Also I very much doubt a gay politician would ever become Speaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Jarred. Also I very much doubt a gay politician would ever become Speaker.</p>
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		<title>By: enough already</title>
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		<dc:creator>enough already</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 05:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of the anger being directed at Fox is unfair.

We have gotten absolutely nowhere when discussing &quot;civil rights&quot; in exactly those quarters where we need votes - among socially conservative blacks and Hispanics.

When, however &quot;separate is never equal&quot; comes up, it - for whatever reason - draws attention to the inequity of the current situation. People get to thinking, &quot;If they can do it to one group, they can do it to other groups, too&quot;. 

And that helps us.

Gay politicians are wonderful on paper. Unfortunately, for every Mayor of Berlin, we have 10 Westerwelle here in Europe. Be careful what you ask for -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of the anger being directed at Fox is unfair.</p>
<p>We have gotten absolutely nowhere when discussing &#8220;civil rights&#8221; in exactly those quarters where we need votes &#8211; among socially conservative blacks and Hispanics.</p>
<p>When, however &#8220;separate is never equal&#8221; comes up, it &#8211; for whatever reason &#8211; draws attention to the inequity of the current situation. People get to thinking, &#8220;If they can do it to one group, they can do it to other groups, too&#8221;. </p>
<p>And that helps us.</p>
<p>Gay politicians are wonderful on paper. Unfortunately, for every Mayor of Berlin, we have 10 Westerwelle here in Europe. Be careful what you ask for -</p>
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		<title>By: David C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 00:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree only in one small but important way. I&#039;m not really looking for politicians to place in government, I&#039;m looking for actual &lt;i&gt;leaders&lt;/i&gt;  who understand the realities of politics but can rise above it when needed and actually lead. Leaders whose principles are aligned with foundational notions like equal justice, equal rights, and equal access to the benefits our society has created for itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree only in one small but important way. I&#8217;m not really looking for politicians to place in government, I&#8217;m looking for actual <i>leaders</i>  who understand the realities of politics but can rise above it when needed and actually lead. Leaders whose principles are aligned with foundational notions like equal justice, equal rights, and equal access to the benefits our society has created for itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 23:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is true that there are few places in the country in which a politician can arise from within the gay community, go on to represent his community at a local level, and then win his party&#039;s nomination for a congressional seat.

It is happening, however.  There are young politicians - none yet on the national stage - whose entry into politics was through the community rather than through the closet.

I long for a politician who doesn&#039;t see our community as a constituency to be courted, but as a people to represent.  It is a sad truth that our biggest allies are not even gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true that there are few places in the country in which a politician can arise from within the gay community, go on to represent his community at a local level, and then win his party&#8217;s nomination for a congressional seat.</p>
<p>It is happening, however.  There are young politicians &#8211; none yet on the national stage &#8211; whose entry into politics was through the community rather than through the closet.</p>
<p>I long for a politician who doesn&#8217;t see our community as a constituency to be courted, but as a people to represent.  It is a sad truth that our biggest allies are not even gay.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 23:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucrece, you&#039;re wrong about Proposition 8 in San Francisco.  It was rejected by three-quarters of the voters.  Not close at all.  Maybe you&#039;re thinking of LA County, in which the Yes on Prop 8 side won, but just barely.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-2008election-california-results,0,3304898.htmlstory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucrece, you&#8217;re wrong about Proposition 8 in San Francisco.  It was rejected by three-quarters of the voters.  Not close at all.  Maybe you&#8217;re thinking of LA County, in which the Yes on Prop 8 side won, but just barely.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-2008election-california-results,0,3304898.htmlstory" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-2008election-california-results,0,3304898.htmlstory</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lucrece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucrece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 22:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid a mere 2-6% of the population will ever be responsible for putting someone in office.

Even in San Francisco it was a close margin to Prop 8&#039;s defeat.

That&#039;s the sad reality of being a minority of our nature, not born into a community but diluted in many, and in small numbers to boot.

We need coalitions to get things done, and the drawback to that is that coalitions function on good faith, but how can it be enforced when the gay community is so politically weak compared to Hispanics, who will be making up the majority racial minority in the country in a matter of decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid a mere 2-6% of the population will ever be responsible for putting someone in office.</p>
<p>Even in San Francisco it was a close margin to Prop 8&#8242;s defeat.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the sad reality of being a minority of our nature, not born into a community but diluted in many, and in small numbers to boot.</p>
<p>We need coalitions to get things done, and the drawback to that is that coalitions function on good faith, but how can it be enforced when the gay community is so politically weak compared to Hispanics, who will be making up the majority racial minority in the country in a matter of decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben In Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben In Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 21:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We already have way to many of those people running the show right now, which is a major reason why our country is sliding down the ol&#039; tubes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We already have way to many of those people running the show right now, which is a major reason why our country is sliding down the ol&#8217; tubes.</p>
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