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	<title>Comments on: Marriage&#8217;s final frontier</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To help translate kelly&#039;s comments:

&quot;preferential treatment&quot; means &quot;the same treatment as heterosexuals&quot;.  

&quot;equality&quot; means &quot;applying rules that are designed to exclude certain people &#039;to everyone&#039; and pretending not to see the deliberate exclusion&quot;.  Example, &quot;banning yarmelkes is equality because it bans them for everyone&quot;.

Kelly, if you are, indeed, a Democrat atheist, then I guess you aren&#039;t taking your anti-gay position out of deeply held religious convictions.  I guess you are just a plain ol&#039; bigot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To help translate kelly&#8217;s comments:</p>
<p>&#8220;preferential treatment&#8221; means &#8220;the same treatment as heterosexuals&#8221;.  </p>
<p>&#8220;equality&#8221; means &#8220;applying rules that are designed to exclude certain people &#8216;to everyone&#8217; and pretending not to see the deliberate exclusion&#8221;.  Example, &#8220;banning yarmelkes is equality because it bans them for everyone&#8221;.</p>
<p>Kelly, if you are, indeed, a Democrat atheist, then I guess you aren&#8217;t taking your anti-gay position out of deeply held religious convictions.  I guess you are just a plain ol&#8217; bigot.</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 15:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone can love anyone they want. They just can&#039;t get preferential treatment from the state. This is so stupid.

Gays can marry gays if they are opposite sex. That&#039;s equality.

I&#039;m a Democrat atheist and this is one of the few issues I hope the Republicans and evangelicals will continue to defend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone can love anyone they want. They just can&#8217;t get preferential treatment from the state. This is so stupid.</p>
<p>Gays can marry gays if they are opposite sex. That&#8217;s equality.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Democrat atheist and this is one of the few issues I hope the Republicans and evangelicals will continue to defend.</p>
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		<title>By: EOJinDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>EOJinDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Before we start signing off on evangelical right-wingers who claim to support us on one issue, we need to make sure we know where they are on all of our important issues. Where is he on employment nondiscrimination? Bullying? Hate Crimes? Housing discrimination?

He&#039;s saying the federal government should be limited and stay out of our personal lives. However, the same argument Mr. Angelo is making can be used to rob the LGBT community of state and local laws and policies that protect us from anti-gay bigotry. I welcome the support, but I don&#039;t think we should pass out blanket approval until we know where they stand on all the issues that impact our community.  

2) Until the Log Cabin Republicans can show a single change they&#039;ve made from &quot;inside&quot; the Republican Party, after approximately 20 years, they will remain in the &quot;self-hating&quot; column. The DADT lawsuit doesn&#039;t count. DOD never actually followed the judge&#039;s order.  Free trade, smaller government, and tax cuts don&#039;t count for crap if arbitrary limits are being placed on our liberty.

But, again, I&#039;m willing to reconsider if someone can show me one single thing the Log Cabin Republicans have done to move their party in a positive direction on our issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Before we start signing off on evangelical right-wingers who claim to support us on one issue, we need to make sure we know where they are on all of our important issues. Where is he on employment nondiscrimination? Bullying? Hate Crimes? Housing discrimination?</p>
<p>He&#8217;s saying the federal government should be limited and stay out of our personal lives. However, the same argument Mr. Angelo is making can be used to rob the LGBT community of state and local laws and policies that protect us from anti-gay bigotry. I welcome the support, but I don&#8217;t think we should pass out blanket approval until we know where they stand on all the issues that impact our community.  </p>
<p>2) Until the Log Cabin Republicans can show a single change they&#8217;ve made from &#8220;inside&#8221; the Republican Party, after approximately 20 years, they will remain in the &#8220;self-hating&#8221; column. The DADT lawsuit doesn&#8217;t count. DOD never actually followed the judge&#8217;s order.  Free trade, smaller government, and tax cuts don&#8217;t count for crap if arbitrary limits are being placed on our liberty.</p>
<p>But, again, I&#8217;m willing to reconsider if someone can show me one single thing the Log Cabin Republicans have done to move their party in a positive direction on our issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/06/01/33710/comment-page-1#comment-95450</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 14:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...a former State Senator...&quot;

Key word there is former. I&#039;ll be impressed when a currently elected conservative comes out. 

This is just more of the same BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;a former State Senator&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Key word there is former. I&#8217;ll be impressed when a currently elected conservative comes out. </p>
<p>This is just more of the same BS.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Camardelle</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/06/01/33710/comment-page-1#comment-95446</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Camardelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 11:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When anyone, and I mean anyone in Mississippi government can legitimately support and affect change on Marriage Equality while not sabotaging their political career, then, and only then, can we consider a &#039;Final Frontier&#039;.

Without federal intervention, we have no hope in hell of ever being treated equally here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When anyone, and I mean anyone in Mississippi government can legitimately support and affect change on Marriage Equality while not sabotaging their political career, then, and only then, can we consider a &#8216;Final Frontier&#8217;.</p>
<p>Without federal intervention, we have no hope in hell of ever being treated equally here.</p>
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		<title>By: Other Fred in the UK</title>
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		<dc:creator>Other Fred in the UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 06:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WisconsinLiberal19,

Perhaps Log Cabin Republicans think change comes from within and wish to support and drive that change.</description>
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<p>Perhaps Log Cabin Republicans think change comes from within and wish to support and drive that change.</p>
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		<title>By: WisconsinLiberal19</title>
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		<dc:creator>WisconsinLiberal19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 06:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I find it a little annoying to have these people come out as supporters after they are no longer in power. It&#039;s nice to see them change their attitude, but still it would nice for them to speak out while they are in a position of power. Barbara Bush waited until she was no longer in the white house to say anything.

As a side note I don&#039;t think long cabin or republican gays are self hating. Personally though I see it as a bunch of people that are more worried about their wallets than their rights. Just my opinion and I know younger voters of the GOP have different attitudes, but right now it seems to be weird to be part of a political party that considers you abominations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I find it a little annoying to have these people come out as supporters after they are no longer in power. It&#8217;s nice to see them change their attitude, but still it would nice for them to speak out while they are in a position of power. Barbara Bush waited until she was no longer in the white house to say anything.</p>
<p>As a side note I don&#8217;t think long cabin or republican gays are self hating. Personally though I see it as a bunch of people that are more worried about their wallets than their rights. Just my opinion and I know younger voters of the GOP have different attitudes, but right now it seems to be weird to be part of a political party that considers you abominations.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/06/01/33710/comment-page-1#comment-95417</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 23:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, tim, as the one person so far who called him a welcome advocate, I can say that ZERO percent carry the notion that Log Cabin Republicans are all &#039;self hating&#039; gays.

Isn&#039;t it nice to get an immediate and conclusive answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, tim, as the one person so far who called him a welcome advocate, I can say that ZERO percent carry the notion that Log Cabin Republicans are all &#8216;self hating&#8217; gays.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it nice to get an immediate and conclusive answer?</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 23:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious.  How many of those that call him a welcome advocate also carry the (mistaken) notion that Log Cabin Republicans are all &#039;self hating&#039; gays?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious.  How many of those that call him a welcome advocate also carry the (mistaken) notion that Log Cabin Republicans are all &#8216;self hating&#8217; gays?</p>
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