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	<title>Comments on: Paging George Orwell</title>
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		<title>By: CPT_Doom</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/06/15/34259/comment-page-1#comment-96293</link>
		<dc:creator>CPT_Doom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Largest criminal conspiracy in the history of humanity - that is the crime of the Roman Catholic leadership (aside, I was raised RC) and Dolan is totally involved. Why should we take moral lessons from an institution that obstructed justice, intimidated witnesses, aided and abetted rapists and defrauded parishioners by using their contributions to pay hush money to victims? Especially considering not one leader - pastoer, bishop or pope - involved in the conspiracy has been held morally or legally responsible. 

That is the first question every media outlet should ask of every Catholic leader who dares to open his mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Largest criminal conspiracy in the history of humanity &#8211; that is the crime of the Roman Catholic leadership (aside, I was raised RC) and Dolan is totally involved. Why should we take moral lessons from an institution that obstructed justice, intimidated witnesses, aided and abetted rapists and defrauded parishioners by using their contributions to pay hush money to victims? Especially considering not one leader &#8211; pastoer, bishop or pope &#8211; involved in the conspiracy has been held morally or legally responsible. </p>
<p>That is the first question every media outlet should ask of every Catholic leader who dares to open his mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: revchicoucc</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/06/15/34259/comment-page-1#comment-96273</link>
		<dc:creator>revchicoucc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the Roman Cahtolic church, the prospect of marriage equality is a serious threat to its self-image of being the moral authority for all humankind.  

The state should not be omnipotent, the the Catholic church&#039;s teaching.  The church should be omnipotent.  That&#039;s the trouble with not having an official state church or religion.  

This has been a problem for the Roman Catholic church since at least the Renasissance and certainly since 1517, the beginning of the Protestant Reformation. They&#039;re still having trouble adjusting to not being in charge of everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the Roman Cahtolic church, the prospect of marriage equality is a serious threat to its self-image of being the moral authority for all humankind.  </p>
<p>The state should not be omnipotent, the the Catholic church&#8217;s teaching.  The church should be omnipotent.  That&#8217;s the trouble with not having an official state church or religion.  </p>
<p>This has been a problem for the Roman Catholic church since at least the Renasissance and certainly since 1517, the beginning of the Protestant Reformation. They&#8217;re still having trouble adjusting to not being in charge of everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if we have to protect children from being raised in a home that does not have both a mother and a father, then abortion must be made mandatory for single women who become pregnant.  That&#039;s right, mandatory.  Isn&#039;t that what the archbishop&#039;s argument leads to, mandatory abortions for single women who become pregnant?

Certainly, lesbians who become pregnant should be forced to have an abortion to prevent the child from being raised in the wrong kind of family.  If we have to protect the child from being raised by a homosexual, won&#039;t we have to kill the child?

I don&#039;t actually think this.  I just want to see the archbishop&#039;s head explode from thinking about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if we have to protect children from being raised in a home that does not have both a mother and a father, then abortion must be made mandatory for single women who become pregnant.  That&#8217;s right, mandatory.  Isn&#8217;t that what the archbishop&#8217;s argument leads to, mandatory abortions for single women who become pregnant?</p>
<p>Certainly, lesbians who become pregnant should be forced to have an abortion to prevent the child from being raised in the wrong kind of family.  If we have to protect the child from being raised by a homosexual, won&#8217;t we have to kill the child?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t actually think this.  I just want to see the archbishop&#8217;s head explode from thinking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: jpeckjr</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/06/15/34259/comment-page-1#comment-96271</link>
		<dc:creator>jpeckjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to the country&#039;s founding principles and &quot;noble values,&quot; neither of our primary founding documents, the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution, nor most of the commentaries on them from the time they were written, speak of any &quot;rights&quot; related to home, family, marriage, or children.  The Constitution does not make any reference to a diety at all -- none at all.  The references in the Declaration to the Creator are limited.  These are not theological documents.  They are political documents.  The Declaration is a petition to the King of England and an appeal to the people of the American colonies.  It has no legal force.  The Constitution lays out how our government should be organized. Whether or not to include the Bill of Rights was a matter of considerable debate in 1789.

While there is a right to marry and a right to have children, they are not enumerated in the Bill of Rights.  They are part of English Common Law.  Our campaigns for the right to marry, the right to adopt, the right to bear children are all based on these rights in English Common Law AND the principle of equal protection under the law, a principle that actually is enshrined in the US Constiution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the country&#8217;s founding principles and &#8220;noble values,&#8221; neither of our primary founding documents, the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution, nor most of the commentaries on them from the time they were written, speak of any &#8220;rights&#8221; related to home, family, marriage, or children.  The Constitution does not make any reference to a diety at all &#8212; none at all.  The references in the Declaration to the Creator are limited.  These are not theological documents.  They are political documents.  The Declaration is a petition to the King of England and an appeal to the people of the American colonies.  It has no legal force.  The Constitution lays out how our government should be organized. Whether or not to include the Bill of Rights was a matter of considerable debate in 1789.</p>
<p>While there is a right to marry and a right to have children, they are not enumerated in the Bill of Rights.  They are part of English Common Law.  Our campaigns for the right to marry, the right to adopt, the right to bear children are all based on these rights in English Common Law AND the principle of equal protection under the law, a principle that actually is enshrined in the US Constiution.</p>
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		<title>By: WMDKitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>WMDKitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 06:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freedom is Slavery, indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom is Slavery, indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: John B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, New York residents are on the verge of having legal recognition of marriage extended to same-sex couples thanks to the governor and legislators they elected representing the majority will of their constituents after an extended public debate on the issue. Yep, that sure sounds like communism all righty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, New York residents are on the verge of having legal recognition of marriage extended to same-sex couples thanks to the governor and legislators they elected representing the majority will of their constituents after an extended public debate on the issue. Yep, that sure sounds like communism all righty.</p>
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		<title>By: PLAINTOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>PLAINTOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are we allowing any &quot;Catholic&quot; organization to be near children much less running adoption agencies. I am certain if you check the records this sanctimonious pile of shit is guilty of accessory to commit child molestation after the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we allowing any &#8220;Catholic&#8221; organization to be near children much less running adoption agencies. I am certain if you check the records this sanctimonious pile of shit is guilty of accessory to commit child molestation after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: TampaZeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaZeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He got one thing HALF right.

He said that &quot;gay marriage is a state manufactured right&quot;.  

That&#039;s true.

JUST LIKE HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGE IS A STATE MANUFACTURED RIGHT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He got one thing HALF right.</p>
<p>He said that &#8220;gay marriage is a state manufactured right&#8221;.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s true.</p>
<p>JUST LIKE HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGE IS A STATE MANUFACTURED RIGHT!</p>
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		<title>By: Texpat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on.  I give you credit for your ability to disassemble the illogical &quot;logic&quot; with such ease and clarity.

The doublespeak is not so shocking in it &quot;shockingness.&quot;  The anti-crowd can explain away every shred of rational thinking with their faith or other equally immaterial basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on.  I give you credit for your ability to disassemble the illogical &#8220;logic&#8221; with such ease and clarity.</p>
<p>The doublespeak is not so shocking in it &#8220;shockingness.&#8221;  The anti-crowd can explain away every shred of rational thinking with their faith or other equally immaterial basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Tisinai</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/06/15/34259/comment-page-1#comment-96213</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Tisinai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kevin!  Fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kevin!  Fixed.</p>
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