Balam Stolas / Vepar Amon is a troll. He is not here for conversation or for communicating a different view or alternate perspective. He is only interested in provoking reaction.

Please do not encourage his endeavors by responding to him.

An interesting, and indeed sick, point of view. Speaking as a Quaker, I find the second guessing of God’s will even more repellent than I do the underlying grandiosity.

Roy Dalgleish,

Perhaps one of the most obvious but least understood of the ten commandments is this one: “Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.”

It isn’t about saying “God dammit!!” as some naive church folk teach their children.

Rather, it’s a warning about claiming God’s authority. If you want to say what God wants or what God thinks or what is God’s Will, you had better be damn sure that you get it right. You had better be sure that God Himself has selected you – out of all of humanity – to be his spokesman before you take up that role.

In other word, Pat Robertson has some really big reasons to worry.

They are not your children. they’re ours. you don’t want them. We do.

Becuase unlike you, we will love and protect our children from the likes of the christobigots.

Balam Stolas/Vepar Amon said:

“The very idea that some elementary school children are already homosexual is vile. Leave our children alone, please.”

I surely agree with leaving them alone. It could start with you.

As for “vile,” here’s looking at you:

My mother says that as early as kindergarten, I got crushes on other little boys.

And she’s right. I remember some of them. Not that it meant anything odd to me then; that’s just the way my emotional attachments were oriented (notice the use of that word). I was in the culture; I knew about girlfriends, husbands and wives, bulls and cows, but me — I liked other guys. At age 5. Innocently. And without apology, then or now.

Still do like others guys. I just graduated from college. I’m happy, healthy and productive — productive in ways Linda Harvey and Balam/Vepar will never be. I attribute this to my parents who, unlike Linda Harvey and Balam/Vepar, LEFT ME ALONE.

In fact, my parents worried that I hadn’t told them that I am gay, thinking that I feared their reaction. That I could fear them for any reason caused them pain, yet they respected my right to raise the topic myself, in my time. When, at 14, I told them, I was met with torrents of love. Torrents. It couldn’t have been better.

So yeah, Balam/Vepar, let’s leave the kids alone. They’re going to turn out okay.

Oh and Balam thanks for the old tired trope of Homosexuals being after “our” children again.

There’s no debating them unless you agree that they’ve put their finger on a problem, and I don’t agree.

On a slightly unrelated note, I think it’s quite ironic that Conservatives, undoubtedly types like Mrs. Harvey, are not fans of “big government,” and want to live their lives with little government intervention (lest we live in a “socialist” society), yet they will fight tooth and nail for government legislation to squander the freedoms of everyone else.

“Our freedoms are the only ones that deserve protection.”
Most notably the freedom to discriminate and dehumanize individuals who THEY deem unworthy of basic human rights.
UGH.

But please, Balam, name all the shows that have “a lot” of homosexuals. I’m rather curious now, considering at the most, a show might have two to three at a time (not to mention the fact that they’re usually minor characters)
Then see how much human nature needs to be “regulated” as far as their sex lives go.

Balam said “Sexuality has always been a regulated part of human nature for a reason; if people are not regulated by society, many of them will not regulate themselves and disease and illegitimacy will skyrocket”.

LOL, that is so wrong and stupid. Human society didn’t start to develop until about 30,000 years ago and humans in our present form have been around for around 200,000 years. For the vast majority of humanities existence sex was not regulated and people thrived anyway.

You want to regulate your sex life, please do, don’t procreate. However you have no right whasoever to “regulate” the sex life of anyone other than yourself.

The logic runs like this. You are not capable of controlling yourself or your sexuality. However, I (or some other self appointed guardian of morality) am able to determine what is best for you.

Therefore, your civil rights, your right to leading your life as you choose, is forfeit.

You have no right of appeal, because I have claimed the moral high-ground already, citing “God’s law” as the basis of this decision – a truly “God given right” to remove your rights and freedoms.

An interesting, and indeed sick, point of view. Speaking as a Quaker, I find the second guessing of God’s will even more repellent than I do the underlying grandiosity.