Comments on: Sao Paulo’s legislation: Straight Pride or Hate Pride?

By: thor ribeiro

thor ribeiro — Tue, 09 Aug 2011 05:48:50 +0000

I´m actualy from São Paulo, and a bit embarassed about this new law.

It was passed by legislative manouvering of the vilest sort. Now its fate is uncertain because the mayor has to sign off on it. He´s a closeted homossexual in the conservative party, who tried to look modern, so it can go either way.

The timing is terrible. The civil unions recognition sparked a series of nasty homophobic attacks, with more than one fatal victim. The notoriety of the gay movement is growing, for better and for worse: there is a lot of resentment in the air.

The growing pentecostal movement is troubling, though not as it is in the US: the March for Jesus is indeed (a bit) inclusive and welcomes gay friendly churches (the Metropolitana church, for an example)

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:53:54 +0000

Cory,

I think an inclusive March for Jesus could be a fun thing if well organized. Maybe floats with various churches singing their favorite hymns, and you know that when the AME float went by everyone would be smiling and moving their feet.

And maybe that could have happened up through the 70′s.

But while I know nothing about Brazil’s March for Jesus, I suspect that any March for Jesus in the US today would be focused on who they were marching against and the “for Jesus” part would be an afterthought.

Well… okay, maybe if the Lutherans planned a March for Jesus in Minnesota it would not have any anti-anybody elements… (I’m picturing Fracis McDormand in Fargo and Kirsty Alley in Drop Dead Gorgeous)

By: cowboy

cowboy — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:20:17 +0000

Why do we have parades anyway? All parades have a “pride” component/aspect to them.

We’re just a bunch of people with a need for some level of exhibitionism or “pride” in who we are.

Though, some of the outfits the baton twirlers wear…(cough cough)…are exhibiting more than their pride.

And that parade-hand-waving motion is only to draw attention and to say: “Look at me!”

Parades are silly. But I go to them.

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:25:05 +0000

Beasil said “I’ve figured that “pride” in the LGBTetc context is just a euphemism for not being ashamed to be gender atypical like people have implied one should be for centuries.”.

That’s the response I give to bigots when they say “Gay pride march, what are you so proud of?”.

By: jpeckjr

jpeckjr — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:54:46 +0000

@Christopher: Not brown.

Beige.

By: james

james — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:52:59 +0000

Every time an opposite gender couple gets married, it’s a celebration of “straight pride.” Fancy costumes. A parade down the aisle of the church. Special music. A big meal. Lots of people there to watch. They even throw “confetti” of one kind or another. All that time and money just to give the bride and groom religious, legal, and societal approval to go have sex and make babies. Yes, ever since the gays took over the main street, straight people have had nothing to be proud of.

By: Beasil

Beasil — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 04:57:31 +0000

I’ve figured that “pride” in the LGBTetc context is just a euphemism for not being ashamed to be gender atypical like people have implied one should be for centuries. This is why the idea of a straight pride parade is asinine.

By: Christopher

Christopher — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 03:02:42 +0000

What colour will their flag be? Brown?

By: DN

DN — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 02:57:08 +0000

“Because the thing about events is that it can be fun to join someone in celebrating their uniqueness and love for their community”

Couldn’t agree more. When I lived in Chicago, I randomly ended up in the middle of the (I don’t know what it’s really called) Puerto Rican Pride parade. I don’t give a crap about Puerto Rico and I’d never really thought about their culutre as an XYZ entity. But dammit, if I didn’t have fun that day.

By: Cory Sampson

Cory Sampson — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:35:35 +0000

“Because the thing about events is that it can be fun to join someone in celebrating their uniqueness and love for their community – be it St. Patrick’s Day or the Lotus Festival or MLK Day or Gay Pride or even a March for Jesus, I suppose.”

You know, I was about to get all indignant about the dismissive tone with which you talk about a “March for Jesus” – but then I realized that most organizers of a March for Jesus would make it into (at least partially) and anti-gay event – and the corollary is that if someone DID organize a gay-friendly March for Jesus, nobody would go to it.

That said, who here wants to organize a gay-friendly March for Jesus?