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	<title>Comments on: Christian Dominionism Is Not A Myth</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Not only is a leader who has experienced authentic heart transformation able to live a godly life, he or she also endeavors to model counterintuitive servant leadership, rather than domination or control, and to empower the least of society instead of mounting a quest for power.

According to author and social critic Os Guinness, the primary issue is “learning how to live with our deepest differences, especially when they involve matters of faith; it’s about justice, not ‘just us.’”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I know evangelicals for whom this is true.  There are even evangelicals who take political stances with which I disagree who do so out of a desire to improve their community rather than out of a desire to impose God&#039;s Will on the resistant.

But yes, oh yes, there are dominionists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not only is a leader who has experienced authentic heart transformation able to live a godly life, he or she also endeavors to model counterintuitive servant leadership, rather than domination or control, and to empower the least of society instead of mounting a quest for power.</p>
<p>According to author and social critic Os Guinness, the primary issue is “learning how to live with our deepest differences, especially when they involve matters of faith; it’s about justice, not ‘just us.’”</p></blockquote>
<p>I know evangelicals for whom this is true.  There are even evangelicals who take political stances with which I disagree who do so out of a desire to improve their community rather than out of a desire to impose God&#8217;s Will on the resistant.</p>
<p>But yes, oh yes, there are dominionists.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Leigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 05:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We’re not talking about the Pat Robertsons, the Joel Olsteens, the Albert Mohlers or the Rick Warrens. No, we’re talking about people who are far, far more fringe than anyone whose name immediately comes to mind whenever most people think of Christian Evangelicalism.&quot; ????

Excuse me??? We absolutely ARE talking about Pat Robertson and Rick Warren! He is C Peter Wagners star pupil. As a matter of fact, his college thesis is about dominionism/reconstructionism, and the inspiration for his purpose-driven book.He describes himself as a Kuyper Calvinist.  Ted Haggert is high level NAR. This movement is now being spread by AFA, FOF and FRC and all their state chapters. This has been a 30 year old stealth operation.

Read Sarah Diamond, Yurica Report, Orrel Steinkamp, Sourcewatch, Talk to Action...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We’re not talking about the Pat Robertsons, the Joel Olsteens, the Albert Mohlers or the Rick Warrens. No, we’re talking about people who are far, far more fringe than anyone whose name immediately comes to mind whenever most people think of Christian Evangelicalism.&#8221; ????</p>
<p>Excuse me??? We absolutely ARE talking about Pat Robertson and Rick Warren! He is C Peter Wagners star pupil. As a matter of fact, his college thesis is about dominionism/reconstructionism, and the inspiration for his purpose-driven book.He describes himself as a Kuyper Calvinist.  Ted Haggert is high level NAR. This movement is now being spread by AFA, FOF and FRC and all their state chapters. This has been a 30 year old stealth operation.</p>
<p>Read Sarah Diamond, Yurica Report, Orrel Steinkamp, Sourcewatch, Talk to Action&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallas David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 01:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out this Rushdoony guy . . . he&#039;s been a huge influence.   And not for the god . . .
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rousas_John_Rushdoony

&quot;Rushdoony&#039;s work has been used by Dominion Theology advocates who attempt to implement a Christian theocracy, a government subject to Biblical law, especially the Torah, in the United States. Authority, behavioural boundaries, economics, penology and the like would all be governed by biblical principles in Rushdoony&#039;s vision, but he also proposed a wide system of freedom, especially in the economic sphere, and claimed Ludwig von Mises as an intellectual mentor; he called himself a Christian libertarian.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this Rushdoony guy . . . he&#8217;s been a huge influence.   And not for the god . . .</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rousas_John_Rushdoony" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rousas_John_Rushdoony</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Rushdoony&#8217;s work has been used by Dominion Theology advocates who attempt to implement a Christian theocracy, a government subject to Biblical law, especially the Torah, in the United States. Authority, behavioural boundaries, economics, penology and the like would all be governed by biblical principles in Rushdoony&#8217;s vision, but he also proposed a wide system of freedom, especially in the economic sphere, and claimed Ludwig von Mises as an intellectual mentor; he called himself a Christian libertarian.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dominionism has been around for a very long time.  It is a very old practice of applying Old Testament laws to New Testament Christianity.  It is a very evil practice. I became aware of it through Anita Bryant in the 70&#039;s, and I have been fighting some form of it ever since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dominionism has been around for a very long time.  It is a very old practice of applying Old Testament laws to New Testament Christianity.  It is a very evil practice. I became aware of it through Anita Bryant in the 70&#8242;s, and I have been fighting some form of it ever since.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Jonson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Jonson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christian Dominionism is alive and well though conservatives are trying to deny that it exists. Howard Ahmanson, Jr., the quack who was the largest contributor of Prop 8 and who finances all sorts of political candidates and causes has long been associated with Christian Dominionism. One of the beneficiaries of his largesse is the right-wing religious blog, GetReligion.org, which tries to hide his participation by saying that the philanthropist who supports the blog is &quot;Roberta Green&quot; without pointing out that Roberta Green is Ahmanson&#039;s wife. 
See the section on GetReligion in &quot;Confessions of a Blog Addict. Or Why I Love to Hate GetRelgion.org and FamilyScholars.org&quot; at glbtq.com. Here is the url: http://www.glbtq.com/sfeatures/confessionsofablogaddict.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian Dominionism is alive and well though conservatives are trying to deny that it exists. Howard Ahmanson, Jr., the quack who was the largest contributor of Prop 8 and who finances all sorts of political candidates and causes has long been associated with Christian Dominionism. One of the beneficiaries of his largesse is the right-wing religious blog, GetReligion.org, which tries to hide his participation by saying that the philanthropist who supports the blog is &#8220;Roberta Green&#8221; without pointing out that Roberta Green is Ahmanson&#8217;s wife.<br />
See the section on GetReligion in &#8220;Confessions of a Blog Addict. Or Why I Love to Hate GetRelgion.org and FamilyScholars.org&#8221; at glbtq.com. Here is the url: <a href="http://www.glbtq.com/sfeatures/confessionsofablogaddict.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.glbtq.com/sfeatures/confessionsofablogaddict.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: FreeDem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FreeDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The European Cuckoo succeeds because it provides a super example of all that the Wren measures (in the case of wrens while there are other races of cuckoo that parasitize other species). The cuckoos agenda of course leaves only them to the destruction of the wrens.

The literature they try and share only among themselves makes it clear that, like the cuckoo, their hidden agenda is something that normal Christians would find horrific, but is a shared policy with cuckoos in most big religions, and contrary to those religions as well.

There is a need for especially the real fundamentalists of each religion to out and shun their cuckoos, but it is those very folks that the camouflage is most aimed at, and thus the most blind to the issue.

For the rest of us IMHO this is the metaphor most likely to be able to remove the blinders, and the best universal description that other religions not be defined as the agenda of the cuckoos among them as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The European Cuckoo succeeds because it provides a super example of all that the Wren measures (in the case of wrens while there are other races of cuckoo that parasitize other species). The cuckoos agenda of course leaves only them to the destruction of the wrens.</p>
<p>The literature they try and share only among themselves makes it clear that, like the cuckoo, their hidden agenda is something that normal Christians would find horrific, but is a shared policy with cuckoos in most big religions, and contrary to those religions as well.</p>
<p>There is a need for especially the real fundamentalists of each religion to out and shun their cuckoos, but it is those very folks that the camouflage is most aimed at, and thus the most blind to the issue.</p>
<p>For the rest of us IMHO this is the metaphor most likely to be able to remove the blinders, and the best universal description that other religions not be defined as the agenda of the cuckoos among them as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 05:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa Miller had a piece in the Washington Post downplaying the religiosity of Republican candidates.  The comments were not buying her argument.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/dominionism-beliefs-among-conservative-christians-overblown/2011/08/17/gIQAb5eaNJ_story.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa Miller had a piece in the Washington Post downplaying the religiosity of Republican candidates.  The comments were not buying her argument.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/dominionism-beliefs-among-conservative-christians-overblown/2011/08/17/gIQAb5eaNJ_story.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/dominionism-beliefs-among-conservative-christians-overblown/2011/08/17/gIQAb5eaNJ_story.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 04:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just think about it you guys, Michele had hired David Barton to teach the freshman Tea Party Congressmen the Constitution. Perry had Barton on the stage praying with him during his Evangelical/I&#039;m running for POTUS party. 

Don&#039;t forget Michele and the lot, appeared on Brian Fischer&#039;s program at the AFA.

Goldberg is correct in that these fringe thoughts are not a true representation of evangelicals in America...but...Mon Dieu! But, these wily charlatans do have the capacity to nudge their way into the files of the elite that surround these people. 

This is why I say a pray before I go to bed,&quot;Dear Lord, Please protect me from your most ardent adherents. Amen.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just think about it you guys, Michele had hired David Barton to teach the freshman Tea Party Congressmen the Constitution. Perry had Barton on the stage praying with him during his Evangelical/I&#8217;m running for POTUS party. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget Michele and the lot, appeared on Brian Fischer&#8217;s program at the AFA.</p>
<p>Goldberg is correct in that these fringe thoughts are not a true representation of evangelicals in America&#8230;but&#8230;Mon Dieu! But, these wily charlatans do have the capacity to nudge their way into the files of the elite that surround these people. </p>
<p>This is why I say a pray before I go to bed,&#8221;Dear Lord, Please protect me from your most ardent adherents. Amen.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 00:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s great some people have such a strong faith in their religion. Unfortunately these people don&#039;t make the best leaders for the United States (in my opinion). This country is far to diverse to be lead by anyone who isn&#039;t grounded fully by realism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s great some people have such a strong faith in their religion. Unfortunately these people don&#8217;t make the best leaders for the United States (in my opinion). This country is far to diverse to be lead by anyone who isn&#8217;t grounded fully by realism.</p>
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		<title>By: TerryDarc</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerryDarc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo! I read the Sarah Posner editorial in Salon.com this morning saying that Rachel Maddow didn&#039;t get it b/c the New Apostolic Reformations is &quot;the NAR is just another development in the competitive, controversial, outrageous, authoritarian and often corrupt tapestry of the world of charismatic evangelists.&quot;

When you&#039;re a serious candidate for the presidency and you&#039;re espousing views that are so far to the right and so opposed to the history of govt. in the USA, to accuse Maddow of being &quot;ahistorical&quot; is ludicrous and worse, dangerous.

Thanks for correcting this dangerous Salon distortion of the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo! I read the Sarah Posner editorial in Salon.com this morning saying that Rachel Maddow didn&#8217;t get it b/c the New Apostolic Reformations is &#8220;the NAR is just another development in the competitive, controversial, outrageous, authoritarian and often corrupt tapestry of the world of charismatic evangelists.&#8221;</p>
<p>When you&#8217;re a serious candidate for the presidency and you&#8217;re espousing views that are so far to the right and so opposed to the history of govt. in the USA, to accuse Maddow of being &#8220;ahistorical&#8221; is ludicrous and worse, dangerous.</p>
<p>Thanks for correcting this dangerous Salon distortion of the truth.</p>
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