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	<title>Comments on: This Is Not What An Apology Looks Like</title>
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	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
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		<title>By: A reader</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/10/31/38346/comment-page-1#comment-109608</link>
		<dc:creator>A reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles, as your post demonstrates, anyone can &quot;simply state&quot; anything.  Similarly, many people &quot;simply state that having strong same sex attraction is ABnormal&quot;, not normal.

Likewise, Ian, perhaps you believe human actions are &quot;definitely NOT natural&quot;, but other people reportedly believe that, apart from perhaps &quot;miracles&quot;, ALL human actions and &quot;interventions&quot; are definitely natural, and that &quot;the internet, tv, planes and high rising buildings&quot;, and human beings too, are also natural, as part of and conforming to the laws of the natural / physical / material world.  The word &quot;natural&quot; is widely applied to just about everything, including man-made things and human actions -- except, apparently, when it suits someone&#039;s agenda to insist that something isn&#039;t natural.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, as your post demonstrates, anyone can &#8220;simply state&#8221; anything.  Similarly, many people &#8220;simply state that having strong same sex attraction is ABnormal&#8221;, not normal.</p>
<p>Likewise, Ian, perhaps you believe human actions are &#8220;definitely NOT natural&#8221;, but other people reportedly believe that, apart from perhaps &#8220;miracles&#8221;, ALL human actions and &#8220;interventions&#8221; are definitely natural, and that &#8220;the internet, tv, planes and high rising buildings&#8221;, and human beings too, are also natural, as part of and conforming to the laws of the natural / physical / material world.  The word &#8220;natural&#8221; is widely applied to just about everything, including man-made things and human actions &#8212; except, apparently, when it suits someone&#8217;s agenda to insist that something isn&#8217;t natural.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The new mission, “Coming Out Loved,” is the catalyst of true tolerance, real diversity, and equality for all.&lt;/i&gt;

I wonder then if Richard will be the first &quot;leading expert in the field of sexual orientation&quot; (or the &quot;change it&quot; variety) to endorse civil equality.

Or is Richard&#039;s &quot;equality for all&quot; the kind that says that giving preference to heterosexual Christian white males is a policy that can be applied equally to everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The new mission, “Coming Out Loved,” is the catalyst of true tolerance, real diversity, and equality for all.</i></p>
<p>I wonder then if Richard will be the first &#8220;leading expert in the field of sexual orientation&#8221; (or the &#8220;change it&#8221; variety) to endorse civil equality.</p>
<p>Or is Richard&#8217;s &#8220;equality for all&#8221; the kind that says that giving preference to heterosexual Christian white males is a policy that can be applied equally to everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Boyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reed Boyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely NOT &quot;an apology.&quot;  More along the lines of a spoonful of sugar to ease the snake oil sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely NOT &#8220;an apology.&#8221;  More along the lines of a spoonful of sugar to ease the snake oil sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 12:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@reader,
ex-gay programs are a variant, yes, but they are definitely NOT natural. Why? because there&#039;s human intervention, just like how we would not class the internet, tv, planes or high rising buildings as &#039;natural&#039;, ex-gay programs are part of that group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@reader,<br />
ex-gay programs are a variant, yes, but they are definitely NOT natural. Why? because there&#8217;s human intervention, just like how we would not class the internet, tv, planes or high rising buildings as &#8216;natural&#8217;, ex-gay programs are part of that group.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To call cancer natural is like calling suicide natural.  Yes, it exists, but it kills you.  Simply stated having strong same sex attraction is normal within the spectrum of human sexuality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To call cancer natural is like calling suicide natural.  Yes, it exists, but it kills you.  Simply stated having strong same sex attraction is normal within the spectrum of human sexuality.</p>
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		<title>By: A reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>A reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 03:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jim, it is said by some that an enduring, strong opposition toward homosexuality is &quot;natural&quot;, ordained by &quot;God&quot;, and of biblical proportions, calling even for the death penalty in the past.  But I doubt that is what you mean by &quot;be done with us&quot;.  And as to &quot;condemned&quot; as &quot;evil&quot;, homosexuality is not alone among &quot;sins&quot; said to be a &quot;threat to civilization” and “attacking families&quot;.  But attacking homosexuality has been popularized, and a convenient scapegoat, while so-called comparatively &quot;normal&quot; sins of fornication, adultery, divorce, child abuse, lying, disrespect, etc. seem to get a pass, or at least, less attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jim, it is said by some that an enduring, strong opposition toward homosexuality is &#8220;natural&#8221;, ordained by &#8220;God&#8221;, and of biblical proportions, calling even for the death penalty in the past.  But I doubt that is what you mean by &#8220;be done with us&#8221;.  And as to &#8220;condemned&#8221; as &#8220;evil&#8221;, homosexuality is not alone among &#8220;sins&#8221; said to be a &#8220;threat to civilization” and “attacking families&#8221;.  But attacking homosexuality has been popularized, and a convenient scapegoat, while so-called comparatively &#8220;normal&#8221; sins of fornication, adultery, divorce, child abuse, lying, disrespect, etc. seem to get a pass, or at least, less attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Hlavac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Hlavac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 01:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear &quot;a reader&quot; -- everything is natural -- but only one &quot;condemned&quot; as &quot;evil&quot; -- &quot;cancer, psychopathologies, birth defects, imbelicity&quot; - ad infinitum -- are all simply &quot;variant&quot; -- but only one is declared &quot;evil&quot; and &quot;a threat to civilization&quot; -- I dare, say, nameless, faceless, genderless &quot;a reader&quot; -- put us on the autism spectrum and be done with us, and cut the &quot;threat to civilization&quot; and &quot;attacking families&quot; nonsense. No other &quot;cancer, psychopathologies, birth defects, imbelicity&quot; has this stigma! -- Get real, sir or madam, get real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear &#8220;a reader&#8221; &#8212; everything is natural &#8212; but only one &#8220;condemned&#8221; as &#8220;evil&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;cancer, psychopathologies, birth defects, imbelicity&#8221; &#8211; ad infinitum &#8212; are all simply &#8220;variant&#8221; &#8212; but only one is declared &#8220;evil&#8221; and &#8220;a threat to civilization&#8221; &#8212; I dare, say, nameless, faceless, genderless &#8220;a reader&#8221; &#8212; put us on the autism spectrum and be done with us, and cut the &#8220;threat to civilization&#8221; and &#8220;attacking families&#8221; nonsense. No other &#8220;cancer, psychopathologies, birth defects, imbelicity&#8221; has this stigma! &#8212; Get real, sir or madam, get real.</p>
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		<title>By: David S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 01:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Step 4: PROFIT! (for Mr. Cohen)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Step 4: PROFIT! (for Mr. Cohen)</p>
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		<title>By: A reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>A reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even cancer is called a &quot;natural variant&quot;, if by &quot;natural variant&quot; one means anything that occurs in nature.  By that standard, everything that exists is a &quot;natural variant&quot;, including psychopathology, birth defects, imbecility and &quot;ex-gay&quot; programs.  Embrace diversity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even cancer is called a &#8220;natural variant&#8221;, if by &#8220;natural variant&#8221; one means anything that occurs in nature.  By that standard, everything that exists is a &#8220;natural variant&#8221;, including psychopathology, birth defects, imbecility and &#8220;ex-gay&#8221; programs.  Embrace diversity?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Change is possible&quot;.

Why am I thinking of those neat coin dispensing thingys that the gals who worked at A&amp;W used to wear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Change is possible&#8221;.</p>
<p>Why am I thinking of those neat coin dispensing thingys that the gals who worked at A&amp;W used to wear?</p>
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