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	<title>Comments on: Oh Stop Whining And Just Pay The Lady</title>
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		<title>By: Ned Flaherty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Flaherty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The historical facts so far show:

1.  Bachmann &amp; Associates does not appear to have adequate professional certification for a mental health facility.
2.  B&amp;A advertises and sells a “quality mental health” product that consists mainly of:  prayer, hope, wardrobe suggestions, advice to get new friends, and instructions that gay male clients will get cured by staring at females.
3.  B&amp;A falsely claims that its product actually changes clients’ sexual orientations, when there is no credible scientific evidence that any such thing has ever happened, or is even possible (coercing a bisexual into a temporary new routine doesn’t count).
4.  B&amp;A does not publish its product’s relapse history, failure ratio, or suicide rate.
5.  B&amp;A commits consumer fraud.
6.  B&amp;A commits medical/mental health malpractice.
7.  B&amp;A does not publish proof of insurance coverage amounts that are appropriate for a firm selling a discredited, disproved, unscientific product with an extremely high mortality rate.

In light of the fraud and malpractice, Bachmann already owes Becker several times more than Becker could possibly owe Bachmann.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The historical facts so far show:</p>
<p>1.  Bachmann &amp; Associates does not appear to have adequate professional certification for a mental health facility.<br />
2.  B&amp;A advertises and sells a “quality mental health” product that consists mainly of:  prayer, hope, wardrobe suggestions, advice to get new friends, and instructions that gay male clients will get cured by staring at females.<br />
3.  B&amp;A falsely claims that its product actually changes clients’ sexual orientations, when there is no credible scientific evidence that any such thing has ever happened, or is even possible (coercing a bisexual into a temporary new routine doesn’t count).<br />
4.  B&amp;A does not publish its product’s relapse history, failure ratio, or suicide rate.<br />
5.  B&amp;A commits consumer fraud.<br />
6.  B&amp;A commits medical/mental health malpractice.<br />
7.  B&amp;A does not publish proof of insurance coverage amounts that are appropriate for a firm selling a discredited, disproved, unscientific product with an extremely high mortality rate.</p>
<p>In light of the fraud and malpractice, Bachmann already owes Becker several times more than Becker could possibly owe Bachmann.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Hlavac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Hlavac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Becker can&#039;t sue for malpractice for he admits he went in undercover as a journalist of sorts. And Bachmann can demand the money till the moon comes home, but Becker is under no obligation to render payment for the services were exposed as bogus and a scam. I&#039;d like to see a court case over it, sure, drag in the fraud of the clinic, without doubt. Send it to collections, get the court case rolling! 

But in answer to &quot;if you have any questions call ...&quot; -- Yes, I have a question Mr. Bachmann, &quot;are you out of your mind?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Becker can&#8217;t sue for malpractice for he admits he went in undercover as a journalist of sorts. And Bachmann can demand the money till the moon comes home, but Becker is under no obligation to render payment for the services were exposed as bogus and a scam. I&#8217;d like to see a court case over it, sure, drag in the fraud of the clinic, without doubt. Send it to collections, get the court case rolling! </p>
<p>But in answer to &#8220;if you have any questions call &#8230;&#8221; &#8212; Yes, I have a question Mr. Bachmann, &#8220;are you out of your mind?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mikenola</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikenola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i so want to see Ms. Bachmann forced into civil court to sue for the money. I want to see him defend the &quot;pray away the gay&quot; therapy in open court instead of on tailored interviews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i so want to see Ms. Bachmann forced into civil court to sue for the money. I want to see him defend the &#8220;pray away the gay&#8221; therapy in open court instead of on tailored interviews.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you sign a commitment to several sessions of anything, in this case &quot;therapy,&quot; and then you discover it&#039;s a fraud during the first session, are you really obligated to pay for the remaining sessions? I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you sign a commitment to several sessions of anything, in this case &#8220;therapy,&#8221; and then you discover it&#8217;s a fraud during the first session, are you really obligated to pay for the remaining sessions? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: homer</title>
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		<dc:creator>homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Marcus Bachmann calls all the gays to make sure they pay or play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Marcus Bachmann calls all the gays to make sure they pay or play.</p>
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		<title>By: CPT_Doom</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/11/15/38839/comment-page-1#comment-110401</link>
		<dc:creator>CPT_Doom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is &lt;i&gt;fascinating&lt;/i&gt; that Dr. Bachmann left this message himself. It&#039;s not like he &quot;treated&quot; Becker, and I highly doubt the head of the clinic is involved in something as mundane as an unpaid $150 bill, especially when his wife maintains she is still running for President. Seems to me someone is taking this all a bit personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is <i>fascinating</i> that Dr. Bachmann left this message himself. It&#8217;s not like he &#8220;treated&#8221; Becker, and I highly doubt the head of the clinic is involved in something as mundane as an unpaid $150 bill, especially when his wife maintains she is still running for President. Seems to me someone is taking this all a bit personally.</p>
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		<title>By: TomTallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomTallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!!  I love Nordstrom&#039;s...  Oh.  Wait...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!!  I love Nordstrom&#8217;s&#8230;  Oh.  Wait&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It had been in there -- something must have glitched out. The hazzards of posting from an iPhone with a wonky connection. It&#039;s fixed now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It had been in there &#8212; something must have glitched out. The hazzards of posting from an iPhone with a wonky connection. It&#8217;s fixed now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are missing a word in the title.

Pay. Prey. Pray. Played.

Somthing like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are missing a word in the title.</p>
<p>Pay. Prey. Pray. Played.</p>
<p>Somthing like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I&#039;m being facetious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I&#8217;m being facetious.</p>
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