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	<title>Comments on: Occupy Hate, a.k.a. Scott Lively</title>
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		<title>By: Désirée</title>
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		<dc:creator>Désirée</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 07:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of agree with Timothy here. From just the video, I&#039;m not sure I see the point.  Yes, I&#039;m sure it felt good to denounce the monster in their midst, but what was the goal? what were the protesters hoping to accomplish?  This came across like the gay vs. nutball christian version of opposing crowds at a high school football game chanting &quot;We&#039;ve got defense, yes we do. We&#039;ve got defense, how &#039;bout you?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of agree with Timothy here. From just the video, I&#8217;m not sure I see the point.  Yes, I&#8217;m sure it felt good to denounce the monster in their midst, but what was the goal? what were the protesters hoping to accomplish?  This came across like the gay vs. nutball christian version of opposing crowds at a high school football game chanting &#8220;We&#8217;ve got defense, yes we do. We&#8217;ve got defense, how &#8217;bout you?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Stoddard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily Stoddard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 06:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it is correct to say that no one&#039;s views were immediately changed following the protest, but change does not come from silence, either.

If you had been there, you would have seen the number of people on the streets and the high school-ers getting out of their school day who shouted in support for our messages of equality and acceptance.

And that is where change begins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it is correct to say that no one&#8217;s views were immediately changed following the protest, but change does not come from silence, either.</p>
<p>If you had been there, you would have seen the number of people on the streets and the high school-ers getting out of their school day who shouted in support for our messages of equality and acceptance.</p>
<p>And that is where change begins.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 21:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A video of people yelling, chanting, and quoting at each other.  

Both sides feel like they&#039;ve accomplished something because &quot;I told them!!&quot;   But when the tape was off and the confrontation over, no one had changed their views, no one had built a bridge, no one had influenced anyone&#039;s thinking and each was more confirmed in their belief that the other side is &quot;a bunch of haters&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A video of people yelling, chanting, and quoting at each other.  </p>
<p>Both sides feel like they&#8217;ve accomplished something because &#8220;I told them!!&#8221;   But when the tape was off and the confrontation over, no one had changed their views, no one had built a bridge, no one had influenced anyone&#8217;s thinking and each was more confirmed in their belief that the other side is &#8220;a bunch of haters&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regan,

We should be careful not to suggest that the response of Scott Lively and Rick Warren to the Uganda situation are in any way similar.

Although his response was later than it could have been, Warren issued a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/10/17703&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;videotape message&lt;/a&gt; sent to all of the pastors with which he has any influence.  It was as clear and compelling of a statement as we could have wished for, ending with &quot;I urge you, the pastors of Uganda, to speak out against the proposed law.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regan,</p>
<p>We should be careful not to suggest that the response of Scott Lively and Rick Warren to the Uganda situation are in any way similar.</p>
<p>Although his response was later than it could have been, Warren issued a <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/10/17703" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">videotape message</a> sent to all of the pastors with which he has any influence.  It was as clear and compelling of a statement as we could have wished for, ending with &#8220;I urge you, the pastors of Uganda, to speak out against the proposed law.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonpol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonpol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott Lively is obviously suffering from a mental illness.

It&#039;s disgusting how much harm this man has done in the name of religion.... just disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Lively is obviously suffering from a mental illness.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s disgusting how much harm this man has done in the name of religion&#8230;. just disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw a play in Studio City, about the harrowing journey of a gay, Irish actor who went to Uganda, and went through months and months of sometimes life threatening issues to adopt a little Ugandan child, age 3.

    At the Q&amp;A I mentioned the activity of Scott Lively and Rick Warren with anti gay Ugandan policies.
And thought that the actor had some big, brass ones to go through all of that, to give a child a better life in Los Angeles.
Indeed, Johnny&#039;s friend Innocent, a gay African boxer WAS murdered for being gay.

    People like Lively can preach all they want.
But it was Johnny O&#039;Callaghan who was actually doing God&#039;s work.

  To my LA based friends, the show is called &quot;Who&#039;s Your Daddy?&quot; playing at the Victory Theater in Burbank. Please go see it and give Johnny a shout out.

 His adopted son: Odin, is now a happy, healthy, 4th grader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw a play in Studio City, about the harrowing journey of a gay, Irish actor who went to Uganda, and went through months and months of sometimes life threatening issues to adopt a little Ugandan child, age 3.</p>
<p>    At the Q&amp;A I mentioned the activity of Scott Lively and Rick Warren with anti gay Ugandan policies.<br />
And thought that the actor had some big, brass ones to go through all of that, to give a child a better life in Los Angeles.<br />
Indeed, Johnny&#8217;s friend Innocent, a gay African boxer WAS murdered for being gay.</p>
<p>    People like Lively can preach all they want.<br />
But it was Johnny O&#8217;Callaghan who was actually doing God&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>  To my LA based friends, the show is called &#8220;Who&#8217;s Your Daddy?&#8221; playing at the Victory Theater in Burbank. Please go see it and give Johnny a shout out.</p>
<p> His adopted son: Odin, is now a happy, healthy, 4th grader.</p>
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