Touché ;)

If there *IS* a God, Pat’s private jet will crash on a deserted island with no tracking possible.

Really? An island?

No. It would be far better for Pat’s assets to be destroyed through some means that isn’t covered under insurance due to an “act of God” clause.

Here in America, the only Christians who have faced serious consequences of being fired, ex communication, censure and denial of their credentials to serve have been Christians who supported gay people, married them in the church or were outed.

I appreciate your sentiment, but there have been a number of Christians who were fired because of the practice of their faith. True, the “practice” primarily involved attacking others, stirring up discord, creating a hostile work environment and assuming that because they self-identified as Christian that they were entitled to be counter-productive and a liability to their employer. But they were fired for it.

Priya Lynn: I think its almost certainly the case that the U.S. has made similar pronouncements about the persecution of religious minorities in such countries but given our focus on LGBT issues we are simply unaware of them.

Not only that, but the State Department has a division dedicated just to religious freedom.

It’s the right thing to do. And I didn’t even need a Bible to know that.

So how come these guys who know so much about the Bible can’t figure out what’s right?

That’s because you are trying to apply principles to the situation. Your principles tell you that it is wrong to persecute others for something like race or religion or orientation or any other attribute which has no negative effect on others.

However, the “Christians” like Pat engage in something that they denounce in others: situational ethics. Whether something is right or wrong is not based in principle but in who is doing it and to whom.

Until that happens, I will never believe there is a god.

If any Christians in other countries faced jail or other forms of major threat and punishment, still have one option that gay people NEVER have: they CHOOSE to be Christian and Christianity has only been around two millennium.
Homosexuality has always and ever been a part of ALL human life and history, unchanged in numbers and a constant in all human life.
Commiserate with left handers, geniuses and red heads.

So if one were to be logical and rational about the acceptance of homosexuality as a biological fact of life, morally neutral and without a political or social motive to exist: THAT would be the truth.

Can’t say that about Christianity. Nor say that Christianity AS a political movement and agenda of influence, doesn’t have a long, cruel, bloody history of enforcement of it’s doctrine on the unwilling.

It figures that some Christians, as a whole easily forget all that.