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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh heck, I thought Limbaugh was  becoming a liberal when he had that certain gay person play at his last wedding reception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh heck, I thought Limbaugh was  becoming a liberal when he had that certain gay person play at his last wedding reception.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cowboy,

ah yes the paradox... but they MUST exist.  Because just like Ted Olson became a radical liberal overnight, so will Randy Smith.  (as &quot;radical liberal&quot; is defined as &quot;disagrees with Rush Limbaugh on something or other&quot;)

From what I read - at Trial Tracker and in the press - Smith was mocking the Proponents when they argued that Walker should have recused and that Ware abused his discretion for not finding so.  I think the line that got the room laughing was when the Cooper argued that a ten year relationship implies a desire to marry and Smith countered that a ten year relationship was a disincentive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cowboy,</p>
<p>ah yes the paradox&#8230; but they MUST exist.  Because just like Ted Olson became a radical liberal overnight, so will Randy Smith.  (as &#8220;radical liberal&#8221; is defined as &#8220;disagrees with Rush Limbaugh on something or other&#8221;)</p>
<p>From what I read &#8211; at Trial Tracker and in the press &#8211; Smith was mocking the Proponents when they argued that Walker should have recused and that Ware abused his discretion for not finding so.  I think the line that got the room laughing was when the Cooper argued that a ten year relationship implies a desire to marry and Smith countered that a ten year relationship was a disincentive.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 01:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can have a Mormon liberal activist judge or you can have a Mormon Republican activist judge but you can&#039;t have a Mormon Republican Liberal activist judge.  Just can&#039;t...because they don&#039;t exist.  

I&#039;ll wait until I hear N. Randy Smith&#039;s verdict on the matter before I label him but where did you get the feeling Justice Smith was bending towards favoring Judge Ware&#039;s opinion?   Was it something he said?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can have a Mormon liberal activist judge or you can have a Mormon Republican activist judge but you can&#8217;t have a Mormon Republican Liberal activist judge.  Just can&#8217;t&#8230;because they don&#8217;t exist.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll wait until I hear N. Randy Smith&#8217;s verdict on the matter before I label him but where did you get the feeling Justice Smith was bending towards favoring Judge Ware&#8217;s opinion?   Was it something he said?</p>
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		<title>By: Lightning Baltimore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lightning Baltimore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 13:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regan, you seem to have forgotten that the proponents of Prop 8, by their own claim, did not need to produce evidence. How could Judge Walker possibly rule based on evidence, then? He should&#039;ve both thrown out the case for lack of evidence &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; recused himself for being a filthy homo.

[sarcasm now complete]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regan, you seem to have forgotten that the proponents of Prop 8, by their own claim, did not need to produce evidence. How could Judge Walker possibly rule based on evidence, then? He should&#8217;ve both thrown out the case for lack of evidence <i>and</i> recused himself for being a filthy homo.</p>
<p>[sarcasm now complete]</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 19:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The proponents of 8 seemed to have completely omitted the fact that 8&#039;s defenders had no facts, no credible witnesses, and no evidence to back up their case.
  Judge Walker&#039;s written decision WAS a matter of careful examination of what evidence, facts and witnesses were before him.
 
   And there&#039;s even LESS evidence, facts or witnesses to prove that Walker was unqualified, AND that Ware&#039;s decision wasn&#039;t also valid based on even less.

 Seriously, how could 8&#039;s defenders figure that ANY court could rule in their favor without the crucial elements in which to HAVE a case, let alone DEFEND it.

    One would have to wonder when their CLAIMS are taken for what they are, and no court in the land really has the time and money to be so bothered with such baselessness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The proponents of 8 seemed to have completely omitted the fact that 8&#8242;s defenders had no facts, no credible witnesses, and no evidence to back up their case.<br />
  Judge Walker&#8217;s written decision WAS a matter of careful examination of what evidence, facts and witnesses were before him.</p>
<p>   And there&#8217;s even LESS evidence, facts or witnesses to prove that Walker was unqualified, AND that Ware&#8217;s decision wasn&#8217;t also valid based on even less.</p>
<p> Seriously, how could 8&#8242;s defenders figure that ANY court could rule in their favor without the crucial elements in which to HAVE a case, let alone DEFEND it.</p>
<p>    One would have to wonder when their CLAIMS are taken for what they are, and no court in the land really has the time and money to be so bothered with such baselessness.</p>
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		<title>By: jpeckjr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpeckjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 17:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just keep thinking arguing in front of a panel of judges that a ruling should be reversed because of the personal life of the judge who made it must be one of the stupidest courtroom strategies a litigator could employ.

Then again, if it&#039;s the only thing you&#039;ve got, and in this case it is, I guess you have to go with it, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just keep thinking arguing in front of a panel of judges that a ruling should be reversed because of the personal life of the judge who made it must be one of the stupidest courtroom strategies a litigator could employ.</p>
<p>Then again, if it&#8217;s the only thing you&#8217;ve got, and in this case it is, I guess you have to go with it, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wingnuts are careful to classify those who pass rulings they disagree with as &quot;activist&quot; judges.  Not &quot;liberal activist&quot; or &quot;conservative activist&quot;.  It would destroy their messaging. 

I would argue that Judge Walker actually released an opinion more in line with true conservative principles (rather dead at the moment) than with true liberal principles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wingnuts are careful to classify those who pass rulings they disagree with as &#8220;activist&#8221; judges.  Not &#8220;liberal activist&#8221; or &#8220;conservative activist&#8221;.  It would destroy their messaging. </p>
<p>I would argue that Judge Walker actually released an opinion more in line with true conservative principles (rather dead at the moment) than with true liberal principles.</p>
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