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	<title>Comments on: Rules for staying in the closet&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Canada Christopher.  Although Harper has said he won&#039;t attempt to repeal marriage equality is is the official policy of the conservative party to do so.  As far as Rex Murphy goes, his opinion isn&#039;t the ultimate determination of reality.  Harper appointed the head of Focus on the Family Canada to director of policy and research, that speaks for itself the degree to which Harper is trying to push religious fundamentalism on Canada.

I agree with you that Canadians as a whole are a lot less religious than Americans, but Harper is very religious and constantly pushing &quot;God Bless&quot; and religious slogans into his speeches.  He&#039;s doing everything he can to turn Canada into a Republican version of the U.S. including implementing failed American policies on crime and drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Canada Christopher.  Although Harper has said he won&#8217;t attempt to repeal marriage equality is is the official policy of the conservative party to do so.  As far as Rex Murphy goes, his opinion isn&#8217;t the ultimate determination of reality.  Harper appointed the head of Focus on the Family Canada to director of policy and research, that speaks for itself the degree to which Harper is trying to push religious fundamentalism on Canada.</p>
<p>I agree with you that Canadians as a whole are a lot less religious than Americans, but Harper is very religious and constantly pushing &#8220;God Bless&#8221; and religious slogans into his speeches.  He&#8217;s doing everything he can to turn Canada into a Republican version of the U.S. including implementing failed American policies on crime and drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/12/16/39820/comment-page-1#comment-112448</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Priya, I don&#039;t know where you live, but here, The Conservatives have NOT repealed gay marraige, John Baird is whatever he wants to be and though everyone knows, no one cares, and even Rex Murphy, the high priest and senior gay Newfie pundit on the CBC, has even stated that all this hype about Harper is not true.

I think the main difference is that Canadians aren&#039;t faschists in the religious approach - no one else needs to believe what I do, and doing so does not make them anyone less patriotic or less valuable than I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Priya, I don&#8217;t know where you live, but here, The Conservatives have NOT repealed gay marraige, John Baird is whatever he wants to be and though everyone knows, no one cares, and even Rex Murphy, the high priest and senior gay Newfie pundit on the CBC, has even stated that all this hype about Harper is not true.</p>
<p>I think the main difference is that Canadians aren&#8217;t faschists in the religious approach &#8211; no one else needs to believe what I do, and doing so does not make them anyone less patriotic or less valuable than I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher, the States is 10 times the population of Canada so its 10 times more likely that stories such as this will surface.

Harper is just as consumed with relgiosity as any American politician, John Baird is anti-gay and many believe gay himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher, the States is 10 times the population of Canada so its 10 times more likely that stories such as this will surface.</p>
<p>Harper is just as consumed with relgiosity as any American politician, John Baird is anti-gay and many believe gay himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smug Canadian here: I still am trying to figure out how the nation that discovered penicillin and put a man on the moon is so consumed with this backwards religulosity!!! Honestly, you never hear ANYTHING like this about Canadian politicians... What&#039;s going on down there??? Colour me perplexed. Can a whole nation go mad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smug Canadian here: I still am trying to figure out how the nation that discovered penicillin and put a man on the moon is so consumed with this backwards religulosity!!! Honestly, you never hear ANYTHING like this about Canadian politicians&#8230; What&#8217;s going on down there??? Colour me perplexed. Can a whole nation go mad?</p>
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		<title>By: RWG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RWG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He does have a chance to redeem himself. Let&#039;s see what he does with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He does have a chance to redeem himself. Let&#8217;s see what he does with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben In Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/12/16/39820/comment-page-1#comment-112333</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben In Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks all for the nice words. This joker just pissed me off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks all for the nice words. This joker just pissed me off.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/12/16/39820/comment-page-1#comment-112327</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the &quot;defenders&quot; of marriage really wanted to protect the sanctity of heterosexual marriage, they would be &lt;b&gt;insisting&lt;/b&gt; that same-sex marriage be legal across the nation - because, as Ben said, &lt;i&gt;&quot;Let us marry each other so that we don’t marry YOU.”&lt;/i&gt;

One of the biggest surprises in recent years for my husband and me has been the large number of people we see coming out of conventional marriages later in life, and finally living as the gay people they always were but had denied. And then there are many married men who are still deeply closeted while seeking some homo-sex whenever they get the chance. They are neighbors, family members, friends, and other acquaintances. The sadness in all this, of course, extends to the spouses who have been deceived and left behind, or remain in sterile marriages while possibly being oblivious to the root of their marriage&#039;s defects. But these are the kind of marriages that the anti-gay zealots are actually promoting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the &#8220;defenders&#8221; of marriage really wanted to protect the sanctity of heterosexual marriage, they would be <b>insisting</b> that same-sex marriage be legal across the nation &#8211; because, as Ben said, <i>&#8220;Let us marry each other so that we don’t marry YOU.”</i></p>
<p>One of the biggest surprises in recent years for my husband and me has been the large number of people we see coming out of conventional marriages later in life, and finally living as the gay people they always were but had denied. And then there are many married men who are still deeply closeted while seeking some homo-sex whenever they get the chance. They are neighbors, family members, friends, and other acquaintances. The sadness in all this, of course, extends to the spouses who have been deceived and left behind, or remain in sterile marriages while possibly being oblivious to the root of their marriage&#8217;s defects. But these are the kind of marriages that the anti-gay zealots are actually promoting.</p>
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		<title>By: ZRAinSWVA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZRAinSWVA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 04:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben...

(sounds of hands clapping)

I just really, really wish that people could grow up and be themselves without society thrusting such awful, terrible, wrenching conflicts into ones psyche...where one has to lie to everyone, including oneself, because it seems so necessary to try to be...what is &quot;expected&quot;.

He has a tough row to hoe. Hopefully he&#039;ll do better, now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben&#8230;</p>
<p>(sounds of hands clapping)</p>
<p>I just really, really wish that people could grow up and be themselves without society thrusting such awful, terrible, wrenching conflicts into ones psyche&#8230;where one has to lie to everyone, including oneself, because it seems so necessary to try to be&#8230;what is &#8220;expected&#8221;.</p>
<p>He has a tough row to hoe. Hopefully he&#8217;ll do better, now.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in San Diego</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/12/16/39820/comment-page-1#comment-112297</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob in San Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 03:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m Greg Davis and if you want to keep DADT in effect, then vote John McCain, Sarah Palin and myself, because there is nothing I love more than being gay, hiding in the closet, and doing harm to other GLBT people. I&#039;m Greg Davis and I approve this message. 

He can go hang with Ken Mellman as far as I&#039;m concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Greg Davis and if you want to keep DADT in effect, then vote John McCain, Sarah Palin and myself, because there is nothing I love more than being gay, hiding in the closet, and doing harm to other GLBT people. I&#8217;m Greg Davis and I approve this message. </p>
<p>He can go hang with Ken Mellman as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: StraightGrandmother</title>
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		<dc:creator>StraightGrandmother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 02:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice comment Ben, you are at the top of your game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice comment Ben, you are at the top of your game.</p>
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