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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/12/27/40073/comment-page-1#comment-113662</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 00:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say that if Jim Burroway is an Obama shill, he&#039;s a very clever one because he&#039;s got me fooled.  I only know the Burroway who was pretty pessimistic about Obama from the beginning, critical of his lack of leadership on DADT, and is still mocking of Obama&#039;s &quot;evolution&quot; on marriage.

Finding Ron Paul to be a bit... ummm... &lt;i&gt;peculiar&lt;/i&gt; does not make one an Obama shill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say that if Jim Burroway is an Obama shill, he&#8217;s a very clever one because he&#8217;s got me fooled.  I only know the Burroway who was pretty pessimistic about Obama from the beginning, critical of his lack of leadership on DADT, and is still mocking of Obama&#8217;s &#8220;evolution&#8221; on marriage.</p>
<p>Finding Ron Paul to be a bit&#8230; ummm&#8230; <i>peculiar</i> does not make one an Obama shill.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 23:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you even spent 5 minutes looking at 1)What Ron Paul has actually said or wrote himself (verified)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just today, Paul admitted to writing parts of the newsletters himself. He also claims that other people, people he won&#039;t name wrote other parts. And he leaves us to guess which parts he wrote and which parts he didn&#039;t write. And he leaves us to believe that he wants us to pay attention to some parts of his newsletters and not other parts. Because he today he agrees with some parts of his own newsletters but in hindsight finds &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57349828-503544/ron-paul-only-8-10-sentences-of-bad-stuff-in-newsletters/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;8-10 sentences of bad stuff.&quot;&lt;/a&gt; Except it was way more than 8-10 sentences, which means he&#039;s either still lying about the newsletters, or we will now have to guess which 8-10 sentences among the hundreds to chose from that consists of either anti-gay, racists, or anti-Semitic &quot;bad stuff.&quot; 

So do you want to know what&#039;s pathetic? It&#039;s a man who won&#039;t hold himself accountable to everything written in his name. A man who wants me to trust what he says except for when he doesn&#039;t want me to trust what he says. A man who wants me to trust what is out there in his name, under his approval -- after all, he was actively promoting the sale of his newsletters in 1995 and representing them as being reflective of his views -- and sometimes even with his photo and over a likeness of his signature. Except for when he doesn&#039;t. 

If there&#039;s a textbook definition of pathetic, that&#039;s it. Paul has yet to come clean about how those passages ended up in a newsletter which, when he was actively selling them at the time he claimed he was writing and which he claimed represented his views. He now only says he didn&#039;t write it (except for when he says he did write it), but won&#039;t explain it any further. But what appears in those newsletters demands an explanation. A very thorough one. But he&#039;s not giving one. Instead, he&#039;s addressing them with the absolute minimum that he can &quot;politically&quot; get by with. After all, he doesn&#039;t want to alienate the many fans who became his fans as a result of those newsletters, does he?

Everything I wrote is under my name and everything that is purported to have been written by my on this blog is mine. No one has to guess a damn thing, and unlike Paul, I will never run away from my own name. And unlike others, I will never plug fingers in my ears and scream lalalalalalalalalala as loudly as possible. And no, not even for Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you even spent 5 minutes looking at 1)What Ron Paul has actually said or wrote himself (verified)</p></blockquote>
<p>Just today, Paul admitted to writing parts of the newsletters himself. He also claims that other people, people he won&#8217;t name wrote other parts. And he leaves us to guess which parts he wrote and which parts he didn&#8217;t write. And he leaves us to believe that he wants us to pay attention to some parts of his newsletters and not other parts. Because he today he agrees with some parts of his own newsletters but in hindsight finds <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57349828-503544/ron-paul-only-8-10-sentences-of-bad-stuff-in-newsletters/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;8-10 sentences of bad stuff.&#8221;</a> Except it was way more than 8-10 sentences, which means he&#8217;s either still lying about the newsletters, or we will now have to guess which 8-10 sentences among the hundreds to chose from that consists of either anti-gay, racists, or anti-Semitic &#8220;bad stuff.&#8221; </p>
<p>So do you want to know what&#8217;s pathetic? It&#8217;s a man who won&#8217;t hold himself accountable to everything written in his name. A man who wants me to trust what he says except for when he doesn&#8217;t want me to trust what he says. A man who wants me to trust what is out there in his name, under his approval &#8212; after all, he was actively promoting the sale of his newsletters in 1995 and representing them as being reflective of his views &#8212; and sometimes even with his photo and over a likeness of his signature. Except for when he doesn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>If there&#8217;s a textbook definition of pathetic, that&#8217;s it. Paul has yet to come clean about how those passages ended up in a newsletter which, when he was actively selling them at the time he claimed he was writing and which he claimed represented his views. He now only says he didn&#8217;t write it (except for when he says he did write it), but won&#8217;t explain it any further. But what appears in those newsletters demands an explanation. A very thorough one. But he&#8217;s not giving one. Instead, he&#8217;s addressing them with the absolute minimum that he can &#8220;politically&#8221; get by with. After all, he doesn&#8217;t want to alienate the many fans who became his fans as a result of those newsletters, does he?</p>
<p>Everything I wrote is under my name and everything that is purported to have been written by my on this blog is mine. No one has to guess a damn thing, and unlike Paul, I will never run away from my own name. And unlike others, I will never plug fingers in my ears and scream lalalalalalalalalala as loudly as possible. And no, not even for Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Non-Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Non-Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 23:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Burroway you&#039;re pathetic. You are not even trying to hide the fact that you are an Obama shill. If you even spent 5 minutes looking at 1)What Ron Paul has actually said or wrote himself (verified) and 2) His voting record you would see that he is one of the few candidates besides Gary Johnson or Ralph Nader (who liberals also hate, besides the fact that he&#039;s a true progressive) that can actually fix this country. But no, you still have Obama&#039;s message of hope stuck up your ass.  How much hope has Obama given you? Another war? Having his PR machine start gearing up for Iran, in the EXACT same way it did for Iraq? The destruction of the Constitution with the passage of the Defense Authorization Act? The fact that Obama is against gay marriage, but won&#039;t say it so that people like you follow him like sheep to the slaughter? Wake up. You&#039;re embarrassing yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Burroway you&#8217;re pathetic. You are not even trying to hide the fact that you are an Obama shill. If you even spent 5 minutes looking at 1)What Ron Paul has actually said or wrote himself (verified) and 2) His voting record you would see that he is one of the few candidates besides Gary Johnson or Ralph Nader (who liberals also hate, besides the fact that he&#8217;s a true progressive) that can actually fix this country. But no, you still have Obama&#8217;s message of hope stuck up your ass.  How much hope has Obama given you? Another war? Having his PR machine start gearing up for Iran, in the EXACT same way it did for Iraq? The destruction of the Constitution with the passage of the Defense Authorization Act? The fact that Obama is against gay marriage, but won&#8217;t say it so that people like you follow him like sheep to the slaughter? Wake up. You&#8217;re embarrassing yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in San Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in San Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but I choose to be one with my hands on my ears, still voting for Ron Paul over Obama. Gay liberal and proud of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but I choose to be one with my hands on my ears, still voting for Ron Paul over Obama. Gay liberal and proud of it!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben In Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/12/27/40073/comment-page-1#comment-113134</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben In Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huntsman also supports DOMA as a good law that works.

Doesn&#039;t work for me, Mr huntsman. You&#039;re probably light years better than Paul, but if you can support DOMA, then you are still light years away in a backwater of the universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huntsman also supports DOMA as a good law that works.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t work for me, Mr huntsman. You&#8217;re probably light years better than Paul, but if you can support DOMA, then you are still light years away in a backwater of the universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or what about the mormon church&#039;s involvement in  Proposition 8? There should be some &#039;splainin to do there as well by Huntsman as well as Newt Romney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or what about the mormon church&#8217;s involvement in  Proposition 8? There should be some &#8216;splainin to do there as well by Huntsman as well as Newt Romney.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So predictable.  I could have predicted Mr. Sullivan switching to Huntsman Jr.  

But, I can derail Andrew&#039;s endorsement of Huntsman Jr. (or Romney) by reminding him the Mormon (LDS) Church &lt;b&gt;still&lt;/b&gt; has not explained nor apologized for its racist policies in the past.  Maybe Jon was too young to understand the LDS dogma back in 1960s and 1970s and it&#039;s unfair to peg Mr. Huntsman Jr. as a racist...but his religion is unapologetic &lt;b&gt;to this day&lt;/b&gt; about its past racist history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So predictable.  I could have predicted Mr. Sullivan switching to Huntsman Jr.  </p>
<p>But, I can derail Andrew&#8217;s endorsement of Huntsman Jr. (or Romney) by reminding him the Mormon (LDS) Church <b>still</b> has not explained nor apologized for its racist policies in the past.  Maybe Jon was too young to understand the LDS dogma back in 1960s and 1970s and it&#8217;s unfair to peg Mr. Huntsman Jr. as a racist&#8230;but his religion is unapologetic <b>to this day</b> about its past racist history.</p>
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