No no no, we need a President who is President of the United States of America, who affirms the right of all individuals to self determination, the right to their own personal liberty and pursuit of happiness, not a President of the United Heterosexual States of America.

get over yourself.

http://www.printfection.com/r-u-serious/RonPaulWont-T-Shirt/_p_6736128

Really? Would’ve never guessed! (nods to himself with a knowing grin and walks away, rolling eyes)

@Reed Boyer, I’ve lived here for all 33 years of my life. The brief moment that we were allowed to marry here in Cali was a blip on the radar, almost an anomaly. Of the 33 years of my life, we had marriage equality for I think 6 months or less. My partner of over 6 years today did not want to get married at the time because of his recent divorce to his former wife. We had a chance to and we lost it. We could of but we didn’t. And now we live with the consequence of possibly never being able to. This is what our justice system is for, not to mention our entire way of government. There was a time women and blacks didn’t have any rights, and then they did. Our time will come, yes we do have to fight for it.

The 18,000 couples who married are extremely lucky, I highly recommend that they not move to a state that does not recognize their marriage, at least until the SCOTUS undoes all their laws not recognizing us. Again, this is how our government works. Same reason why I would tell American hikers not to go hiking in Iraq, Iran, or anywhere for that fact in the Middle East, we’re not welcome there. I’m so sick and tired of hearing about people going to places that they shouldn’t, point in case, if the South hates gays, then guess what, the South doesn’t get my tourist dollars, I’ll go to a gay friendly place.

Ron Paul says marriage is a states right, unlike Bachman and frothy mix Santorum who say the same thing and yet at the same time say “however if I’m president I will force all the states to my views on marriage.” I don’t hear that from Paul, even if he’s not for gay marriage, he’s not advocating striping it away. I think these are excellent questions for the media, HRC, Boxturtle, and other journalists should be asking his campaign. He tells you directly what he thinks, he doesn’t flip flop or tell you what you want to hear. The media and some on this site need to stop dredging up irrelevant stuff and just ask him the question. That’s why your journalists, this is your job! If you want me and many others to change our mind, ask him the questions and give us the answers, don’t try and soak fear by telling us the people who are around him and what their views are.

@JohnD, can you please show me a republican candidate who is not surrounded by racists and especially homophobes? Besides John Huntsman and Gary Johnson? I’d vote for them but I’m not too keen on their foreign policy and domestic policy. War between Iran and Israel or WW3 is coming up and I don’t want us involved, it does not concern America, we can’t afford them, not unless we agree to raise our taxes to pay for them. Do you want your taxes raised? You didn’t even want your taxes raised to pay for the last 2 wars.

@straightgrandmother, I’m glad someone is proposing to shut some agency’s, again, if American’s don’t want to pay taxes for them, well we got to close something, can anyone come up with 5 different departments to close? We can’t fund our government by borrowing from China. And that’s exactly what we’re doing.

As to Pell grants and student loans, I don’t see anything in the constitution that says we’re guaranteed the right to go to college. I’ve never gone to college, only to a trade school, and I never took out a loan. Trust me when I say I’m not rich nor am I in the middle class, but my partner was kind enough to cash in some stock he owned for me to go. My sister went to college to be a teacher, there is nothing in the constitution that says she has the right to get grants or loans from my tax dollars, she and others can go to a bank and arrange something, that’s what they are there for, and less risk to our tax dollars. And the Energy dept, really what good has it done for us? The EPA has done more for our environment. We’re still burning oil, coal, and using nuclear materials. The war on drugs, big failure there and yet we throw billions at it. All the republicans want us to drill oil, so let’s start drilling in their states! Don’t let them be NIMBY’s or hypocrites about it. Let them drill, let them wreck their homes or drinking supplies should anything happen, again, let them build this new pipeline from canada, and allow them to put it right over their aquafirs like they want to, just come to California, it won’t affect our water.

Every republican candadite want’s to repeal Obamacare, no surprise there, and you know what, that might be OK, granted I’m someone who could use Obamacare since I’m poor and don’t have any insurance, but it’s not what we were promised during his campaign, we were suppose to get universal health care. We didn’t get it, the republicans blocked everything and in order to get enough democrates onboard they made so many shady back-room deals that when the legislation was presented it looked like Frankenstein.

Look, I’m not saying Ron Paul is perfect in everything, but he’s right on the most important stuff, like getting our country back in shape, and taking care of ourselves.

@MarkF, I agree with you 100%. Even on the scary prediction of your final comments. Both my partner and I (mind you, my partner is a former marine who, (OMG I’m going to throw up again,)voted for Bush both times) believe that Paul will be assasinated but some pretty powerful people and organizations in this country (or from some foreign country who claims to be our friend.) We actually think that there is a good chance that Paul would be stoped like Benizir Buttin was in Pakistan a year or so ago. Just to keep them from enacting change. But trust me, I hope that that will not happen. I’m curious to know though who is VP candidate would be.

Back to Straightgrandmother, I was not for a single bailout under both administrations, cause not only did we bail out the companies, but we also bailed out those who made the horrible decisions that got them there in the first place. Yes there would be pain and hardships, but we’ve had this happen in the past before and we’ve turned out fine every time. The bailout money is not going back into treasury to bring the debt down, our government figures that since they’ve spent it once, then they can go and spend it on something else when they get it back.

I want to wish everyone a very Happy and Safe New Year, I’ve really enjoyed our discussions on this, I do want you to know that what ever yours and mine views are I will always consider you all my brothers and sisters.

Happy New Year!

I was not willing to see General Motors and all those jobs disappear. The economy was in the dumpers and GM had a hard time and thankfully they got a helping hand. I can’t imagine the soup lines we would have in our pot holed streets right now if the government didn’t intervene. The fact is all those financial institutions, if they were not bailed out and would have failed we would be way much worse off than we are now. And they are paying the money back with interest. Warren Buffet is wealthy, but he can’t bail out every business for an equity position. But this discussion is kind of off topic as the topic is Ron Paul so I suppose we should get back on topic.