Comments on: Exodus Board Member: Homosexuality IS Different

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:20:02 +0000

Here’s what former Exodus VP, Randy Thomas thinks:

“I wouldn’t be surprised if Alan does some clarifying in the near future. And don’t forget, he is on the record for years … I honestly believe he has not changed his underlying opinions and core convictions.”

Neither do I. Exodus may “tweak” the language a bit to paint Exodus in a better light, but they will still teach that LGBT people are “broken” and in need of “repair”. They will still fight against equality for LGBT people. They will still overlook and minimize the pain they have caused by their dishonest claims of “change”.

“Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose”: the more that changes, the more it’s the same thing.

By: Steve

Steve — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:49:12 +0000

Why should we trust anything he says? Lying is what he does for a living

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:17:52 +0000

BTW, Alan Chambers claims that the reports of financial difficulty at Exodus are only rumor. Here’s what he posted on the Gay Christian Network page:

“You mentioned that Exodus did this because we are in financial trouble, which could not be further from the truth. Like everyone else in the world, the economy has caused us to be more careful, but our budget hasn’t changed much in 3 years since the initial pinch. So, the stories are not true. My motivation to be at GCN had nothing to do with rebranding or anything like it.” ~ Alan Chambers

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:13:01 +0000

I find myself more in agreement with Jim’s commentary than I do with Mr. Kincaid’s:

“As GM demonstrated in the 1990s, it’ll take more than a shiny chrome grill up front and new wood trim on the dashboard to convince people that there’s something significantly different under the hood.”

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:59:34 +0000

I think you got it exactly right, Theo.

By: Theo

Theo — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:42:38 +0000

Burroway is right on this one. If Exodus is having financial difficulties, the last thing it wants to do is become less anti-gay. If this is what Alan Chambers is attempting, he will find that it will fail and that his successor will double down on the politicized anti-gay agenda.

The purpose that Exodus serves from the perspective of its funders is 1) to establish that homosexuality is “mutable” and therefore (they believe) ineligible for civil rights protections and 2) to justify anti-gay punitive measures. With respect to the former, they couldn’t care less what the frequency of change is or how change therapy impacts those who attempt it. As Bryan Fischer pointed out recently, even if a true ex-gay were as rare as a baseball player hitting Barry Bonds’ average, it wouldn’t matter’; even one instance of change means that homosexuality is changeable and thus outside the scope of anti-discrimination protection. With respect to the latter, once you get people to accept that gays have the option of changing, then you can justify imposing all sorts of punitive measures, as the gays are only subject to them so long as they refuse to change.

By: Ben in Oakland

Ben in Oakland — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:33:06 +0000

As for a gluttony parade, well, one could view any of the “people of Walmart” videos. One could note the contests where eating more food that most third world people see in a week are popular. One could make disparaging comments about the overall weight problems of America, especially the bastions of morality like the Cow, The Beck, and Rush to the buffet.

One could, but politeness prevents one from pointing out the obvIous.

By: John

John — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:58:59 +0000

There is a greed pride parade. It is the current nominating process for Republican presidential candidate. Every Republican candidate has more or less stated that greed is good.

By: CPT_Doom

CPT_Doom — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:31:09 +0000

Oh the irony of someone writing “Homosexuality is the only sinful behavior that has a cultural identity and movement surrounding it” on a Baptist Press site. The lack of self-awareness accompanying that statement is truly breathtaking. There’s no cultural identity or movement surrounding Protestantism? As for “revisionist theological movements” that celebrate sinful behavior, I can think of a few “churches” that allow adultery to be celebrated any given Saturday when their divorced members marry.

By: Jim Burroway

Jim Burroway — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 01:59:17 +0000

Sarah,

I am 51 years old. Don’t you think I’d know the proper use of the word “sanguine” by now young lady?

You’re right. I don’t. ;-).

Thanks. It’s corrected