Comments on: New Jersey and the Veep pick http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/01/17/41013 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sat, 18 May 2013 05:23:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Jay Jonson http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/01/17/41013/comment-page-1#comment-115261 Jay Jonson Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:58:09 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=41013#comment-115261 Christie will not be Romney's running mate. More likely are McDonnell of Virginia and Rubio of Florida, both states crucial to a Romney victory. New Jersey will not vote Republican in the Presidential election even if Christie is on the ticket, and his selection would royally piss off the Republican Christianists. Romney doesn't have to balls to pick him. Christie will not be Romney’s running mate. More likely are McDonnell of Virginia and Rubio of Florida, both states crucial to a Romney victory. New Jersey will not vote Republican in the Presidential election even if Christie is on the ticket, and his selection would royally piss off the Republican Christianists. Romney doesn’t have to balls to pick him.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/01/17/41013/comment-page-1#comment-115235 Ryan Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:03:35 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=41013#comment-115235 We just all watched the same Republican primaries, right? The Republicans are stumbling all over themselves to go further and further to the right, socially. The nominees are far more anti-gay than they even were four years ago. There's literally no chance at all that Christie could sign this bill and then expect to get picked as a VP nominee, and everyone would see through any attempts to be conveniently out of the state while the Lt. Governor signs it. Even Romney, the supposed moderate, signed NOM's anti-gay pledge. And this talk of the country becoming more and more supportive of gay rights is true, but that's moving *very* slowly on the right side of the aisle, and then even among the few Republicans who support total equality (28%, according to Gallup), they're unlikely to actually factor that in to which Republican candidate they vote for. Meanwhile, the majority of Republicans who are anti-gay equality will damn sure remember not to vote for Christie in 2016 or 2020, should he sign this bill. We just all watched the same Republican primaries, right? The Republicans are stumbling all over themselves to go further and further to the right, socially. The nominees are far more anti-gay than they even were four years ago. There’s literally no chance at all that Christie could sign this bill and then expect to get picked as a VP nominee, and everyone would see through any attempts to be conveniently out of the state while the Lt. Governor signs it. Even Romney, the supposed moderate, signed NOM’s anti-gay pledge.
And this talk of the country becoming more and more supportive of gay rights is true, but that’s moving *very* slowly on the right side of the aisle, and then even among the few Republicans who support total equality (28%, according to Gallup), they’re unlikely to actually factor that in to which Republican candidate they vote for. Meanwhile, the majority of Republicans who are anti-gay equality will damn sure remember not to vote for Christie in 2016 or 2020, should he sign this bill.

]]> By: JohnAGJ http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/01/17/41013/comment-page-1#comment-115232 JohnAGJ Wed, 18 Jan 2012 02:22:43 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=41013#comment-115232 In addition to what Jack said, there is also a question of what Christie brings to the ticket. Will New Jersey go Republican? I don't think so. With doubts that Romney can bring Massachusetts into the GOP column, I doubt he'd want to risk his Veep likewise failing to win his own home state as well. If Romney gets the nomination he's going to have to pick a Southerner or Westerner who is acceptable enough to the social cons. Someone non-white and/or female would no doubt help. In addition to what Jack said, there is also a question of what Christie brings to the ticket. Will New Jersey go Republican? I don’t think so. With doubts that Romney can bring Massachusetts into the GOP column, I doubt he’d want to risk his Veep likewise failing to win his own home state as well. If Romney gets the nomination he’s going to have to pick a Southerner or Westerner who is acceptable enough to the social cons. Someone non-white and/or female would no doubt help.

]]> By: octobercountry http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/01/17/41013/comment-page-1#comment-115211 octobercountry Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:44:33 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=41013#comment-115211 Isn't there a third option---that Christie could do nothing with the bill, neither sign nor veto it, which would allow it to take effect after a certain number of days had passed? I've heard that he may be a serious contender in 2016, and if he's looking toward the future he must see the writing on the wall---that acceptance of marriage equality will only grow. If he doesn't take any direct action with this bill, he won't necessarily be seen as totally pro-gay at present, and not totally anti-gay four years in the future. Well, I'm probably being overly hopeful that this could happen... Isn’t there a third option—that Christie could do nothing with the bill, neither sign nor veto it, which would allow it to take effect after a certain number of days had passed?

I’ve heard that he may be a serious contender in 2016, and if he’s looking toward the future he must see the writing on the wall—that acceptance of marriage equality will only grow. If he doesn’t take any direct action with this bill, he won’t necessarily be seen as totally pro-gay at present, and not totally anti-gay four years in the future.

Well, I’m probably being overly hopeful that this could happen…

]]> By: Jack http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/01/17/41013/comment-page-1#comment-115202 Jack Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:03:19 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=41013#comment-115202 Christie will not be the VP nominee. #1) He's not a second banana. 2) Romney has problems with the GOP base of crazies. Running with another Northeastern perceived/relative moderate will not help him get out the crazy vote. Christie will not be the VP nominee. #1) He’s not a second banana. 2) Romney has problems with the GOP base of crazies. Running with another Northeastern perceived/relative moderate will not help him get out the crazy vote.

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