Comments on: Jewish Press Publishes Op-Ed About Ex-Gay Abuses http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/01/26/41292 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sat, 25 May 2013 02:47:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Regan DuCasse http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/01/26/41292/comment-page-1#comment-115905 Regan DuCasse Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:03:19 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=41292#comment-115905 OMG... Sometimes I really don't know what to say to the depths of lies, deception, abuse and manipulation that's exacted on vulnerable gay youth under the banner of heaven. One of the most disturbing things is how the ex gay industry STILL insists on a template of 'causes' of homosexuality that included abuse of some kind. Yet won't own that bigotry and suspicion and the burden of forcing gay people to change is abuse. Using FEAR, ignorance and vulnerability TO that industry's purpose is exactly why and how it can be defined as evil. To say nothing of being secretive to outside observers and advocates. Truly compassionate and EFFECTIVE counsel doesn't need such tactics. Let alone denies the bad results they get. A wrongful diagnosis, won't get rightful results. OMG…

Sometimes I really don’t know what to say to the depths of lies, deception, abuse and manipulation that’s exacted on vulnerable gay youth under the banner of heaven.
One of the most disturbing things is how the ex gay industry STILL insists on a template of ’causes’ of homosexuality that included abuse of some kind.
Yet won’t own that bigotry and suspicion and the burden of forcing gay people to change is abuse.

Using FEAR, ignorance and vulnerability TO that industry’s purpose is exactly why and how it can be defined as evil.
To say nothing of being secretive to outside observers and advocates.

Truly compassionate and EFFECTIVE counsel doesn’t need such tactics. Let alone denies the bad results they get.
A wrongful diagnosis, won’t get rightful results.

]]> By: Jim Hlavac http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/01/26/41292/comment-page-1#comment-115881 Jim Hlavac Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:29:36 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=41292#comment-115881 Every time I read about the Orthodox Jewish community and gays I can't help thinking back to the day, decades ago, when the movie "Making Love" came out, and in a theater in Manhattan six young Hasidic Orthodox Jews (oh, 20-somethings) came in and sat as three clear couples, and watched it in raptured silence through to the end, while many other non-Hasidic, maybe not even Jewish, in the audience got up and booed and spewed out invective (what those people thought they were going to get, I can't imagine,) as they walked out. But those six, the near tears in their eyes when the lights came on, and they were leaving the theater. Yes, an image that will stay with me forever. Every time I read about the Orthodox Jewish community and gays I can’t help thinking back to the day, decades ago, when the movie “Making Love” came out, and in a theater in Manhattan six young Hasidic Orthodox Jews (oh, 20-somethings) came in and sat as three clear couples, and watched it in raptured silence through to the end, while many other non-Hasidic, maybe not even Jewish, in the audience got up and booed and spewed out invective (what those people thought they were going to get, I can’t imagine,) as they walked out. But those six, the near tears in their eyes when the lights came on, and they were leaving the theater. Yes, an image that will stay with me forever.

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