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	<title>Comments on: Maggie&#8217;s Strategy: Denying Reality</title>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/01/27/41356/comment-page-1#comment-116174</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are a man and a woman pledged in a sexual union really a marriage? No, they&#039;re not... unless they enter into a civil marriage. Maggie thinks she&#039;s being clever but her rhetoric is just illogical, desperate nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are a man and a woman pledged in a sexual union really a marriage? No, they&#8217;re not&#8230; unless they enter into a civil marriage. Maggie thinks she&#8217;s being clever but her rhetoric is just illogical, desperate nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric in Oakland</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/01/27/41356/comment-page-1#comment-116076</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But marriage isn’t just any kind of love; it’s the special love of husband and wife for each other and their children.&quot;

Does anyone else find it disgusting that she included &quot;and their children&quot; in this sentence talking about the definition of commited romantic love?  Children are not parties to the marriage.  Her phrasing seems to imply praise for incest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But marriage isn’t just any kind of love; it’s the special love of husband and wife for each other and their children.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does anyone else find it disgusting that she included &#8220;and their children&#8221; in this sentence talking about the definition of commited romantic love?  Children are not parties to the marriage.  Her phrasing seems to imply praise for incest.</p>
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		<title>By: cd</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/01/27/41356/comment-page-1#comment-116067</link>
		<dc:creator>cd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 02:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I still don’t get why they’re so hung up on sex. It strikes me as juvenile.&lt;/i&gt;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusive_thoughts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I still don’t get why they’re so hung up on sex. It strikes me as juvenile.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusive_thoughts" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusive_thoughts</a></p>
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		<title>By: Timothy (TRiG)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy (TRiG)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jim. Those were disgustingly offensive.

TRiG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jim. Those were disgustingly offensive.</p>
<p>TRiG.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I&#039;m going to step in here and call a halt to the so-called fat &quot;jokes.&quot; 

Any further comments along those lines will be removed and the commenters placed on moderation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;m going to step in here and call a halt to the so-called fat &#8220;jokes.&#8221; </p>
<p>Any further comments along those lines will be removed and the commenters placed on moderation.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Love is a great thing. But marriage isn’t just any kind of love; it’s the special love of husband and wife for each other and their children.&quot;

Does that include a nearly 50% divorce rate among heterosexuals? Does that include the apparent increase in spousal abuse? Do these figure into the specialness of straight marriage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Love is a great thing. But marriage isn’t just any kind of love; it’s the special love of husband and wife for each other and their children.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does that include a nearly 50% divorce rate among heterosexuals? Does that include the apparent increase in spousal abuse? Do these figure into the specialness of straight marriage?</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Boyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reed Boyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coxhere, there is no need to call her a &quot;fat-assed-female-hog,&quot; &quot;fat-hog-woman,&quot; &quot;lard-ass-hog-bitch,&quot; etc.

The preferred term is &quot;Hell-Sow.&quot;

Her size, I can only speculate, is from indulgence in a couple of the deadly sins (gluttony and pride), stemming from fear.  By insulating herself against the world (and other people) through stuffing her feelings with food (a pretty common element of morbid obesity) she can gain the illusion of control over her environment.

&quot; . . . an apparent protective effect of excess body weight on psychological suffering (Friedman &amp; Brownell, 1995)&quot; as cited by Marzocchi, et al (2008).&quot;

Although, &quot;fatuous fat-ass&quot; is a term dear to my heart.  Let&#039;s face it, she&#039;s one sick twist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coxhere, there is no need to call her a &#8220;fat-assed-female-hog,&#8221; &#8220;fat-hog-woman,&#8221; &#8220;lard-ass-hog-bitch,&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>The preferred term is &#8220;Hell-Sow.&#8221;</p>
<p>Her size, I can only speculate, is from indulgence in a couple of the deadly sins (gluttony and pride), stemming from fear.  By insulating herself against the world (and other people) through stuffing her feelings with food (a pretty common element of morbid obesity) she can gain the illusion of control over her environment.</p>
<p>&#8221; . . . an apparent protective effect of excess body weight on psychological suffering (Friedman &#038; Brownell, 1995)&#8221; as cited by Marzocchi, et al (2008).&#8221;</p>
<p>Although, &#8220;fatuous fat-ass&#8221; is a term dear to my heart.  Let&#8217;s face it, she&#8217;s one sick twist.</p>
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		<title>By: Coxhere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coxhere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fat-assed-female-hog cannot imagine that 2 men could ever commit themselves together in a loving, caring, supportive relationship for at least a couple of reasons.  #1)  The female hog&#039;s perspective of relationships, in general, doesn&#039;t ever have commitment in them.  She knows that she could never commit to another human being because of her self-righteousness, self-centeredness, selfishness, and insecurities.  And because of this, she can only attract others at her same level of dysfunctioning.  Most likely, she&#039;s never even met a human being who has the capacity to commit beyond self.  #2)  The fat-hog-woman knows how hetro men are, at least as far as her world-view is concerned.  She&#039;s never met 2 men who have anything but cut-throat competition in their attitudes, beliefs, and values.  It is foreign for her to consider that 2 men can not only be cooperative and caring but also loving, supporting, understanding, being patient, gentle, and kind.  To the lard-ass-hog-bitch, no such male, human beings exist.  No, the fat-hog-female speaks to the world only in ways that she has understanding and experience in the world.  Her words reflect her own reality.  She certainly doesn&#039;t speak for Gay men.  She speaks only for gutter-human-psychopathology that she has come to know as truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fat-assed-female-hog cannot imagine that 2 men could ever commit themselves together in a loving, caring, supportive relationship for at least a couple of reasons.  #1)  The female hog&#8217;s perspective of relationships, in general, doesn&#8217;t ever have commitment in them.  She knows that she could never commit to another human being because of her self-righteousness, self-centeredness, selfishness, and insecurities.  And because of this, she can only attract others at her same level of dysfunctioning.  Most likely, she&#8217;s never even met a human being who has the capacity to commit beyond self.  #2)  The fat-hog-woman knows how hetro men are, at least as far as her world-view is concerned.  She&#8217;s never met 2 men who have anything but cut-throat competition in their attitudes, beliefs, and values.  It is foreign for her to consider that 2 men can not only be cooperative and caring but also loving, supporting, understanding, being patient, gentle, and kind.  To the lard-ass-hog-bitch, no such male, human beings exist.  No, the fat-hog-female speaks to the world only in ways that she has understanding and experience in the world.  Her words reflect her own reality.  She certainly doesn&#8217;t speak for Gay men.  She speaks only for gutter-human-psychopathology that she has come to know as truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Snowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but it&#039;s been my experience that a lot of the people who believe this stuff really are pretty juvenile. For example the old &quot;Conservative&quot; guy at work who was making obscene gestures at the TV in the Breakroom when President Obama was giving a televised speech.

When I saw that, I couldn&#039;t help but think...what the hell is the point??

I made my share of ignorant comments when I was a teenager, too, but I think continuing to be motivated by hate and ignorance once you&#039;ve seen a little of the real world takes more energy and mental work than I&#039;m willing to waste on such a thing. It takes WORK to be angry and hateful, and even if it&#039;s just one person (the ex-wife in my case) when that went away it was like a weight was gone from my shoulders.

With that in mind I have to wonder why anybody would WANT to be like that, much less toward an entire group of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but it&#8217;s been my experience that a lot of the people who believe this stuff really are pretty juvenile. For example the old &#8220;Conservative&#8221; guy at work who was making obscene gestures at the TV in the Breakroom when President Obama was giving a televised speech.</p>
<p>When I saw that, I couldn&#8217;t help but think&#8230;what the hell is the point??</p>
<p>I made my share of ignorant comments when I was a teenager, too, but I think continuing to be motivated by hate and ignorance once you&#8217;ve seen a little of the real world takes more energy and mental work than I&#8217;m willing to waste on such a thing. It takes WORK to be angry and hateful, and even if it&#8217;s just one person (the ex-wife in my case) when that went away it was like a weight was gone from my shoulders.</p>
<p>With that in mind I have to wonder why anybody would WANT to be like that, much less toward an entire group of people.</p>
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		<title>By: WMDKitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>WMDKitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t get why they&#039;re so hung up on sex. It strikes me as juvenile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t get why they&#8217;re so hung up on sex. It strikes me as juvenile.</p>
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