Comments on: Another Ex-Gay Ministry Attempts Stealth Mode

By: Reed Boyer

Reed Boyer — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:24:39 +0000

“After the Ball.” Loved it. Still do. Although it has been brandished by anti-gays as “the Manifesto,” it remains one of my favorites. Its adverts and approach to educating the larger population have very much informed the progress of the last 30 years (exponentially the last5-10, it seems).

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 00:42:35 +0000

I’ve heard a few apologies for “wrong done by Christians” which were sincere. They are usually very obvious because they include ways in which they commit to correcting the harm (i.e. full inclusion, working for social change, supporting legal equality).

I’ve heard some that were completely cynical like those noted above.

But I think there are some apologies that are not accompanied by substantive reversal, but do at least have some value. They may not change their theology, but they promise to tone down the rhetoric, stop propagating lies, etc. It’s not exactly praise worthy, but it does show an improved perspective and should be encouraged.

If New Living Way Ministry is anything other than pure BS, they will revise their website and get rid of the lies and myths. However, I suspect that their epiphany was limited to this self-congratulatory press release.

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:32:56 +0000

They said “As followers of Christ, it is appropriate for us at New Living way Ministry to repent and ask the gay community for forgiveness for the way individual Christians and Christian organizations have often treated you.”.

I noticed all these so-called apologies start with this approach talking about how the wrong was done by “chrisitians and christian organizations” with the implication being “wrong was done by christians other than us.”. That’s no apology, its a ploy to sucker people into trusting those who will later attempt to ease the victims into anti-gay ideology.

By: Soren456

Soren456 — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:51:27 +0000

Forgiveness is for the forgiven. It’s a matter of handing the problem back to an offender so that honest change can be made, and it is not complete until change is complete.

But requests for it are cheap, as proven here, and the concept is essentially without meaning outside the context of how these people think.

By: Snowman

Snowman — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:21:38 +0000

I’m sorry but if people have been (often repeatedly) hurt by Christians why would they think “God loves you and has a plan for your life” would be any kind of good or supportive statement??

In my experience “God loves you and has a plan for your life” is code for “We have plans for you and want to manipulate you into following us again.”
No. Thank. You.