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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/02/15/41992/comment-page-1#comment-117548</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This clause reveals what is really at the heart of the bill. How long have we heard stories of gay predators backed by western largess corrupting the youth in Uganda? Yet, when asked directly, the anti-gays can only offer scant evidence of the actual perps. Outside of the occasionally cowered gay man &#039;switching sides&#039; to save his own skin, they&#039;re left grasping at straws. Should this bill pass with this clause intact it will instantly create a mechanism for identifying a group of &#039;predators.&#039;

Every successful conviction under this law will allow an opportunity to &#039;expose&#039; another predator. Eventually they&#039;ll be able to point to countless cases where there was a &#039;victim&#039; and a &#039;perp.&#039; Once they have enough predators locked up it will be easy to make it politically impossible for the head of state to oppose stricter penalties against gay folks.  

This is a dangerously self-fulfilling  clause. This clause, even without the death penalty, will spell ruin for gay people in Uganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This clause reveals what is really at the heart of the bill. How long have we heard stories of gay predators backed by western largess corrupting the youth in Uganda? Yet, when asked directly, the anti-gays can only offer scant evidence of the actual perps. Outside of the occasionally cowered gay man &#8216;switching sides&#8217; to save his own skin, they&#8217;re left grasping at straws. Should this bill pass with this clause intact it will instantly create a mechanism for identifying a group of &#8216;predators.&#8217;</p>
<p>Every successful conviction under this law will allow an opportunity to &#8216;expose&#8217; another predator. Eventually they&#8217;ll be able to point to countless cases where there was a &#8216;victim&#8217; and a &#8216;perp.&#8217; Once they have enough predators locked up it will be easy to make it politically impossible for the head of state to oppose stricter penalties against gay folks.  </p>
<p>This is a dangerously self-fulfilling  clause. This clause, even without the death penalty, will spell ruin for gay people in Uganda.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/02/15/41992/comment-page-1#comment-117487</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theo,

I commend your fire and zeal but - in no small way - BTB has been preventing a catastrophe.  For three years, now.

Not alone, of course.  Along the way we found ourselves in alliance on this issue with people we never would have expected or even dreamed.  And while we cannot assert that the statements from the White House and the State Department are a direct result of our endeavor, it is also true that the role we played provided a foundation for this issue to be more broadly publicized and for concern to be expressed to the Administration.

There is still great danger.  The Ugandan LGBT population is still at risk - in some ways more so - and the situation could turn for worse at any time.  So we continue to write.  We continue to monitor.  We continue to correct the misinformation that is spread by careless mainstream &quot;reporters&quot;.

But things are not the same.  The consequences and repercussions of anti-gay legislation in Uganda are significantly different than they were in February 2009 when we began this effort.  Ugandan politicians are well aware that Europe and the United States are watching this bill specifically and that what they do will impact the future of that nation.

Clearly you have a passion and concern for the Ugandan people.  I recommend that, to better understand the context of our coverage of the situation in Uganda and why things are where they are today, you read the past three years of Uganda commentary &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/slouching-toward-kampala&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theo,</p>
<p>I commend your fire and zeal but &#8211; in no small way &#8211; BTB has been preventing a catastrophe.  For three years, now.</p>
<p>Not alone, of course.  Along the way we found ourselves in alliance on this issue with people we never would have expected or even dreamed.  And while we cannot assert that the statements from the White House and the State Department are a direct result of our endeavor, it is also true that the role we played provided a foundation for this issue to be more broadly publicized and for concern to be expressed to the Administration.</p>
<p>There is still great danger.  The Ugandan LGBT population is still at risk &#8211; in some ways more so &#8211; and the situation could turn for worse at any time.  So we continue to write.  We continue to monitor.  We continue to correct the misinformation that is spread by careless mainstream &#8220;reporters&#8221;.</p>
<p>But things are not the same.  The consequences and repercussions of anti-gay legislation in Uganda are significantly different than they were in February 2009 when we began this effort.  Ugandan politicians are well aware that Europe and the United States are watching this bill specifically and that what they do will impact the future of that nation.</p>
<p>Clearly you have a passion and concern for the Ugandan people.  I recommend that, to better understand the context of our coverage of the situation in Uganda and why things are where they are today, you read the past three years of Uganda commentary <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/slouching-toward-kampala" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Mielke</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/02/15/41992/comment-page-1#comment-117479</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Mielke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further, typical of historical witch hunts, &quot;victim&quot; status grants any citizen the license to entrap homosexuals.  As explained above, the technique would be easy to employ: arrange a liaison with a homosexual, advise the authorities of the where and when, then cry &quot;victim&quot; at the appropriate moment.  From a social science research pov, this will be a fascinating experiment, if the law passes: the opportunity to see a full-fledged witch hunt unfold in real time.  Fortunately, humanitarianism trumps research and we must prevent this travesty from happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further, typical of historical witch hunts, &#8220;victim&#8221; status grants any citizen the license to entrap homosexuals.  As explained above, the technique would be easy to employ: arrange a liaison with a homosexual, advise the authorities of the where and when, then cry &#8220;victim&#8221; at the appropriate moment.  From a social science research pov, this will be a fascinating experiment, if the law passes: the opportunity to see a full-fledged witch hunt unfold in real time.  Fortunately, humanitarianism trumps research and we must prevent this travesty from happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And to be a bit more specific about what I would hope to see happen, I think this dire situation merits a gay blogswarm.  Let&#039;s get BTB, Joe Jervis, John Aravosis, Jeremy Hooper, PHB and the rest of the scooby gang together and focus a demand on the White House for a commitment to impose sanctions if this genocidal bill passes.  

This isn&#039;t a big ask.  Uganda is neither a strategically important country nor one with a significant domestic constituency in the US.  A commitment to implement sanctions would be nothing more than the Administration&#039;s living up to its announced policy on human rights.  The White House can make this commitment without any sign-off from the GOP. 

This should be low hanging fruit.  Frankly, it should have been a demand at the $35,800/plate dinner attended by the gay A-list this week.  Too bad that the no one thought to do that amidst the fine dining and lighthearted badinage.

I love BTB&#039;s coverage of this and other issues.  As usual, you are more in-depth than anyone else.  But I&#039;d rather see BTB help prevent a catastrophe rather than catalogue its features in detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to be a bit more specific about what I would hope to see happen, I think this dire situation merits a gay blogswarm.  Let&#8217;s get BTB, Joe Jervis, John Aravosis, Jeremy Hooper, PHB and the rest of the scooby gang together and focus a demand on the White House for a commitment to impose sanctions if this genocidal bill passes.  </p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a big ask.  Uganda is neither a strategically important country nor one with a significant domestic constituency in the US.  A commitment to implement sanctions would be nothing more than the Administration&#8217;s living up to its announced policy on human rights.  The White House can make this commitment without any sign-off from the GOP. </p>
<p>This should be low hanging fruit.  Frankly, it should have been a demand at the $35,800/plate dinner attended by the gay A-list this week.  Too bad that the no one thought to do that amidst the fine dining and lighthearted badinage.</p>
<p>I love BTB&#8217;s coverage of this and other issues.  As usual, you are more in-depth than anyone else.  But I&#8217;d rather see BTB help prevent a catastrophe rather than catalogue its features in detail.</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to my comment of a few days ago, I ask that BTB use its platform to turn the pressure on the Obama Administration to commit to specific economic and military sanctions in the event that this passes.

It is pathetic that the only people focusing on this are the people who are hiding in basements in Uganda:

http://bikyamasr.com/57261/gay-activist-in-hiding-wants-donors-to-rethink-uganda/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to my comment of a few days ago, I ask that BTB use its platform to turn the pressure on the Obama Administration to commit to specific economic and military sanctions in the event that this passes.</p>
<p>It is pathetic that the only people focusing on this are the people who are hiding in basements in Uganda:</p>
<p><a href="http://bikyamasr.com/57261/gay-activist-in-hiding-wants-donors-to-rethink-uganda/" rel="nofollow">http://bikyamasr.com/57261/gay-activist-in-hiding-wants-donors-to-rethink-uganda/</a></p>
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		<title>By: MattNYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing.  I think someone on the drafting is channeling Roy Cohn...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing.  I think someone on the drafting is channeling Roy Cohn&#8230;</p>
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