Comments on: Lively Responds to Lawsuit

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:59:43 +0000

ALL haters, David?

By: DavidinWashington

DavidinWashington — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:28:23 +0000

Isn’t it funny that a hater can’t take the heat. If you’re gonna hate, you better be prepared for what comes afterward. HOLD ALL HATERS ACCOUNTABLE!

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:31:03 +0000

And Jim I think it is constructive when we disagree. In an odd way it works against the group think, my camp, good guys v.evil guys thinking that is the enemy of progress.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:26:42 +0000

Jim

Lively helped to organize and launch a concerted effort to persecute gay people.

Oh Noes!!! Lock him up!!!

Yes he wants to treat gay people badly. That’s not a secret. He advocated for the mistreatment of gay people.

I dunno. I guess it’s a left/right thing. I just can’t bring myself to believe that wanting to enact social rejection and cultural intolerance of people whom you believe are engaging in destructive behavior is an international crime.

Maybe it’s because I WANT to persecute child molesting priests and right-wing bigots.

By: Warner

Warner — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:40:27 +0000

It should be known that american’s only have freedom of speech in America, and countries that grant freedom of speech to visitors… If i remeber correctly, uganda is not one of them.

By: Bernie

Bernie — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:58:48 +0000

Jim, et al, As I said to Warren, I say to you, Bravo! Bravo, Gentlemen!

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:53:58 +0000

Although it just struck me that Exodus came ‘near’ to apologizing for the conferenc with their letter to M7, which was belatedly signed by Schmierer. That could be somewhat evidence of remorse and a guilty conscious, something that Lively has, of course, never allowed to show.

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:51:05 +0000

I doubt if anything can come of this. It reminds me of John Metzger’s trial for his role in inciting neo-Nazi skinheads in Portland, Oregon. But the connection is even more tenuous than that.

By: Jim Burroway

Jim Burroway — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:46:24 +0000

It looks like we’re online at about the same time Timothy. I just saw your third comment. It makes me wonder if maybe we should have some kinda public chat app for this thing?

Anyway, I appreciate what you’re trying to defend. I don’t think whatever the outcome of this case would be, that anyone should be prohibited from “railing” against anyone. But there’s “railing” and then there’s railing.

By: Jim Burroway

Jim Burroway — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:39:33 +0000

I want to add one more thing personally. My comments do not reflect whether I think this case is wise or not. I think CCR would have to have a whole lot more to show than what is in the complaint before this should go forward. I have no idea what their plans are for witnesses, testimony, evidence, etc. I'm interested in seeing what they have when the rubber hits the road, and to be honest, I think it will be an extremely difficult case to prove. If I were a betting man, I'd probably bet that Lively will prevail. But civil cases are brought when people experience real, legitimate harms because of the actions of other people. If SMUG can prove that their harms came as a result of Lively's actions, then I see no reason why they should not be allowed to pursue their claim in court.