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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/03/23/43124/comment-page-1#comment-120344</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twirly Girl

It is very common for a small organization - whether a small business or a one-man non-profit - to employ themself. It&#039;s a legal way of separating ones personal life from their business venture and protecting their personal assets. 

Assuming for a moment that he was legit and actually working against huddled homosexuals, he would need some legal vehicle through which to work. Donors need some entity to contribute to. 

Its not only ethical, its kind of a necessity. He couldn&#039;t just do what he pretends to do without a structure. 

(and the Box of Rocks rushed off to incorporate)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twirly Girl</p>
<p>It is very common for a small organization &#8211; whether a small business or a one-man non-profit &#8211; to employ themself. It&#8217;s a legal way of separating ones personal life from their business venture and protecting their personal assets. </p>
<p>Assuming for a moment that he was legit and actually working against huddled homosexuals, he would need some legal vehicle through which to work. Donors need some entity to contribute to. </p>
<p>Its not only ethical, its kind of a necessity. He couldn&#8217;t just do what he pretends to do without a structure. </p>
<p>(and the Box of Rocks rushed off to incorporate)</p>
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		<title>By: TwirlyGirly</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/03/23/43124/comment-page-1#comment-120299</link>
		<dc:creator>TwirlyGirly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy wrote:

&quot;I could call myself the United States Office of Boxturtlry but it wouldn’t mean anything.&quot;

Or perhaps &quot;The United States Office of Box of Rocks Oversight&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;I could call myself the United States Office of Boxturtlry but it wouldn’t mean anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or perhaps &#8220;The United States Office of Box of Rocks Oversight&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: TwirlyGirly</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/03/23/43124/comment-page-1#comment-120298</link>
		<dc:creator>TwirlyGirly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jpeckjr,

I really appreciate the time you took looking over the audits at the link I provided, and the explanations you gave. I have a much better understanding now on how he operates. I do wish someone in authority would take a closer look at ethical issue of PA contracting with his own consulting firm.

Snowman wrote:

&quot;Those people who make a living on exploiting the loopholes in life irritate the hell out of me. I suppose I could run for some post like that, that no one seems to want and make up some bullshit charity and pay myself a big check…but the difference is I’d have difficulty looking at myself in the mirror living such a dishonest life.&quot;

I&#039;m with you 100% on that, Snowman. Yet, this idiot makes gay people out to be the bad guys...

Sickening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jpeckjr,</p>
<p>I really appreciate the time you took looking over the audits at the link I provided, and the explanations you gave. I have a much better understanding now on how he operates. I do wish someone in authority would take a closer look at ethical issue of PA contracting with his own consulting firm.</p>
<p>Snowman wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Those people who make a living on exploiting the loopholes in life irritate the hell out of me. I suppose I could run for some post like that, that no one seems to want and make up some bullshit charity and pay myself a big check…but the difference is I’d have difficulty looking at myself in the mirror living such a dishonest life.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you 100% on that, Snowman. Yet, this idiot makes gay people out to be the bad guys&#8230;</p>
<p>Sickening.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/03/23/43124/comment-page-1#comment-120289</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jpeckjr,

Thanks for so ably addressing the tax/IRS/audit issue. As one who has audited non-profits, I think it highly unlikely that he&#039;s breaking any rules. 

It is perfectly legal to ask people to send you money so you can watch homosexuals huddle. And it is perfectly legal to be so stupid that you send it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jpeckjr,</p>
<p>Thanks for so ably addressing the tax/IRS/audit issue. As one who has audited non-profits, I think it highly unlikely that he&#8217;s breaking any rules. </p>
<p>It is perfectly legal to ask people to send you money so you can watch homosexuals huddle. And it is perfectly legal to be so stupid that you send it. </p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/03/23/43124/comment-page-1#comment-120288</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, the public advocate is not a real governmental office. I could call myself the United States Office of Boxturtlry but it wouldn&#039;t mean anything. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, the public advocate is not a real governmental office. I could call myself the United States Office of Boxturtlry but it wouldn&#8217;t mean anything. </p>
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		<title>By: Snowman</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/03/23/43124/comment-page-1#comment-120283</link>
		<dc:creator>Snowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Neil

Sounds like all the &quot;Public Advocate&quot; does is support Eugene Delgaudio.

At least now I know how this idiot got elected...he ran unopposed.

Those people who make a living on exploiting the loopholes in life irritate the hell out of me. I suppose I could run for some post like that, that no one seems to want and make up some bullshit charity and pay myself a big check...but the difference is I&#039;d have difficulty looking at myself in the mirror living such a dishonest life.

Someone ought to investigate this waste of government funds (and space, and oxygen) I bet there&#039;s something illegal or unethical to find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Neil</p>
<p>Sounds like all the &#8220;Public Advocate&#8221; does is support Eugene Delgaudio.</p>
<p>At least now I know how this idiot got elected&#8230;he ran unopposed.</p>
<p>Those people who make a living on exploiting the loopholes in life irritate the hell out of me. I suppose I could run for some post like that, that no one seems to want and make up some bullshit charity and pay myself a big check&#8230;but the difference is I&#8217;d have difficulty looking at myself in the mirror living such a dishonest life.</p>
<p>Someone ought to investigate this waste of government funds (and space, and oxygen) I bet there&#8217;s something illegal or unethical to find.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jpeckjr, thanks for the breakdown. I understand more now of how he operates and how he stays in business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jpeckjr, thanks for the breakdown. I understand more now of how he operates and how he stays in business.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Public records and media reports indicate that Public Advocate of the United States supports conservative - and primarily anti-gay - causes through only two activities: sending fundraising messages via e-mail and traditional mail; and paying Eugene Delgaudio more than $150,000 per year.&quot;

Pretty much says it all on the Wikipedia entry on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Public records and media reports indicate that Public Advocate of the United States supports conservative &#8211; and primarily anti-gay &#8211; causes through only two activities: sending fundraising messages via e-mail and traditional mail; and paying Eugene Delgaudio more than $150,000 per year.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pretty much says it all on the Wikipedia entry on him.</p>
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		<title>By: Snowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus, I just looked up all the articles about this guy (I started reading this site somewhere in the middle) &quot;Long-haired, earring-pierced men??&quot; My Gods, where did this dude get his information about gay people, repeatedly watching the &quot;Blue Oyster&quot; bits from the &quot;Police Academy&quot; movies?? 

About the only thing he didn&#039;t say was that they were all wearing leather or something. Jesus. This guy is *wierd.*

I&#039;ve never heard of, much less met an actual gay person (or any other kind of person) that even *might* fit his goofy fantastic description, and I grew up knowing a decent number of bisexual or gay people (my mom is bisexual, far as I know she always has been and I&#039;ve always kind of known that) yet I have never met any &quot;long haired, earring pierced men&quot; with screechy voices, or anything like that.

Note to Mr. Delgaudio: Dude, you seem more gay than some of the gay dudes that I know. The fact that his first letter seems like it could be the plot of a porno just...doesn&#039;t add up with everything else that he says about himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus, I just looked up all the articles about this guy (I started reading this site somewhere in the middle) &#8220;Long-haired, earring-pierced men??&#8221; My Gods, where did this dude get his information about gay people, repeatedly watching the &#8220;Blue Oyster&#8221; bits from the &#8220;Police Academy&#8221; movies?? </p>
<p>About the only thing he didn&#8217;t say was that they were all wearing leather or something. Jesus. This guy is *wierd.*</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of, much less met an actual gay person (or any other kind of person) that even *might* fit his goofy fantastic description, and I grew up knowing a decent number of bisexual or gay people (my mom is bisexual, far as I know she always has been and I&#8217;ve always kind of known that) yet I have never met any &#8220;long haired, earring pierced men&#8221; with screechy voices, or anything like that.</p>
<p>Note to Mr. Delgaudio: Dude, you seem more gay than some of the gay dudes that I know. The fact that his first letter seems like it could be the plot of a porno just&#8230;doesn&#8217;t add up with everything else that he says about himself.</p>
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		<title>By: jpeckjr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpeckjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TwirlyGirl.  I followed the link, and looked at the organization&#039;s most recent audit filing with the State of West Virginia.  I have 25 years of nonprofit experience, so know something about how to interpret it.

First, this organization is tax-exempt under section 501(c)4 of the IRS code.  That means it is trying to influence public policy and public opinion, not doing primarily charitable, religious, or educational work.  It is tax exempt, but donations to it are not tax deductible.  The audit notes this.

Second, their financial records appear to be in proper order.  The audit seems to meet the minimal requirements of a financial audit.

I currently chair the board of a charitable nonprofit with about $250,000 in annual revenue.  Our annual audit is 30 pages and much, much more detailed than this one.  But, then, we&#039;re not trying to hide anything.

Third, the percent they are spending on fundraising (officially 23%) seems a little on the high side, but not alarmingly so.  Charitable groups try to keep that in the 7 - 10% range.  It&#039;s usually higher for political groups.  I suspect, though, it is closer to 70% in this case and many fundraising costs are hidden in the administrative costs.  

They also seem to have no or very, very few employees.  Almost nothing is reported as wages and salaries.  Those costs could be classified as administrative, but that&#039;s highly unusual.

Instead, they have a contract with Mr. Delguadio&#039;s consulting firm. It&#039;s not all that unusual for a nonprofit to work with a consulting firm.  But it does appear to be &quot;self-dealing,&quot; which raises ethical if not legal questions.  The contract is disclosed in the audit.

Mr. Delguadio knows how to dot his i&#039;s and cross his t&#039;s.  His appearance of propriety does not make him less disgusting or less pitiable.

The saddest aspect is that people donate to someone who is always on the brink of complete failure according to his own email fundraising messages.  Despite his assertions of success, there really is no evidence this organization has been remotely effective in its lobbying efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TwirlyGirl.  I followed the link, and looked at the organization&#8217;s most recent audit filing with the State of West Virginia.  I have 25 years of nonprofit experience, so know something about how to interpret it.</p>
<p>First, this organization is tax-exempt under section 501(c)4 of the IRS code.  That means it is trying to influence public policy and public opinion, not doing primarily charitable, religious, or educational work.  It is tax exempt, but donations to it are not tax deductible.  The audit notes this.</p>
<p>Second, their financial records appear to be in proper order.  The audit seems to meet the minimal requirements of a financial audit.</p>
<p>I currently chair the board of a charitable nonprofit with about $250,000 in annual revenue.  Our annual audit is 30 pages and much, much more detailed than this one.  But, then, we&#8217;re not trying to hide anything.</p>
<p>Third, the percent they are spending on fundraising (officially 23%) seems a little on the high side, but not alarmingly so.  Charitable groups try to keep that in the 7 &#8211; 10% range.  It&#8217;s usually higher for political groups.  I suspect, though, it is closer to 70% in this case and many fundraising costs are hidden in the administrative costs.  </p>
<p>They also seem to have no or very, very few employees.  Almost nothing is reported as wages and salaries.  Those costs could be classified as administrative, but that&#8217;s highly unusual.</p>
<p>Instead, they have a contract with Mr. Delguadio&#8217;s consulting firm. It&#8217;s not all that unusual for a nonprofit to work with a consulting firm.  But it does appear to be &#8220;self-dealing,&#8221; which raises ethical if not legal questions.  The contract is disclosed in the audit.</p>
<p>Mr. Delguadio knows how to dot his i&#8217;s and cross his t&#8217;s.  His appearance of propriety does not make him less disgusting or less pitiable.</p>
<p>The saddest aspect is that people donate to someone who is always on the brink of complete failure according to his own email fundraising messages.  Despite his assertions of success, there really is no evidence this organization has been remotely effective in its lobbying efforts.</p>
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