Comments on: NOM finds commonality with Islamists and communists

By: cd

cd — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:47:18 +0000

Political movements that are anti-Modernity eventually have to choose between morality, resulting in having to accept defeat, and getting enough anti-Modern allies together with no meaningful moral basis to stay politically effective.

In my experience morality always loses this argument. Which tells me that morality was never the fundamental motivation, whatever they may pretend to. Retaining a/the pre-Modern condition is, with its particular structure of social privilege.

By: Snowman

Snowman — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:02:44 +0000

I’m used to bizarre things from the Anti-gay crowd. When you gotta make stuff up just to have bad things to say about somebody and you might really believe in your cause, chances are you waved goodbye to reality a long time ago.

By: Lord_Byron

Lord_Byron — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:53:43 +0000

“If Howard Schultz and his insular Seattle liberals hear from enough of us, management will move to a more genuinely inclusive attitude toward its customers’ and partners’ diverse views on marriage.”

Umm, does NOM realize how bizarre and hypocritical their statement is?

By: Hunter

Hunter — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:04:29 +0000

Hmm — NOM, al Qaeda, and the Red Guard.

What do you suppose they have in common?

By: Uki

Uki — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:59:05 +0000

The ministry of Religious Affair in my country (Indonesia) suddenly denouncing gay marriage, out of nowhere. Just suddenly came up. Now I know why he made those statements.

Indonesia quite moderate and progressive, and Starbucks also built their place nearby gay venues. So LGBT are their primary market.

But, society here is easily driven by rumors. So, let’s just hope nothing will happens here.

By: Shofixti

Shofixti — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:10:32 +0000

Wait, what?

What does NOM mean by “genuinely inclusive attitude”?

Seems like they may have mistyped ‘genuinely discriminatory attitude’ to me.

By: Snowball

Snowball — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:25:43 +0000

Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman and the UAE are actually fairly liberal Islamic countries (as is Egypt) and most people won’t care or even notice the ads. I either know people in or have been to all of them. (I was stationed in Bahrain, ex-US Navy cook here) The only country I can think of where they might find some empathy would be Saudi Arabia but they’d never be able to run their stuff there, because they are a Christian group in all but name.

More to the point, sex is considered a very private matter over there, not something to be discussed in public most of the time. (This includes homosexuality which most of those countries are against but don’t notice/care if it’s kept in private) I’d be amazed if they even get on the air.

Not every country in the world is sex obsessed like the US.

By: MCB

MCB — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:25:29 +0000

@Ben in Oakland:
Slight correction, polygamy makes up perhaps 1-3% of all Islamic marriages, so it’s hardly common. Most men can’t afford to have more than one wife.

But honestly, I think NOM would prefer even temporary marriages to expanding rights marriage here; at least it’s… what’s the term I first read here? Penis-in-vagina? This has never been about redefining marriage. It’s always been about hating people who are gay. (I know, stating the obvious…)

By: TampaZeke

TampaZeke — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 02:07:44 +0000

At what point is NOM going to cross the line with the Southern Poverty Law Center and rightfully be declared a Certified Hate Group? I would think that the recent string of evidence to that effect would have already garnered them the honor.

By: Neil

Neil — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:55:59 +0000

NOM’s decision to advertise this boycott in China shows their ignorance. Homosexuality has gained rapid public acceptance in China since legalisation in the mid 90s. Their psychiatric association declassified homosexuality as a pathology in 2001 after doing studies similar to Evelyn Hooker’s. There’s no comparable morality campaigning in China as you see in countries with Abrahamic cultural baggage.

I’m so glad to see NOM wasting their money there.