I think that we have to be careful not to think in cartoon bubbles, or else we only end up denying ourselves the wisdom and perspective we need to win.

I agree very strong with this statement. Many TBGL people and many liberal and leftwing ones are so angry toward anti-gay people and the right that they aren’t able to think in anything but broadbrush terms. Some are so far gone that they will attack you if you attempt to critize their broadbrush thinking.

The anger from broadbrush thinking may give people the energy to be politically active, but the thinking itself can lead to false analyses of the situation, and useless or harmful activism.

Valid point. Hating ideas isn’t nearly as viscerally rewarding as hating people. Let it go and you reach the stage where you delight when someone is hurt. We’ve seen people celebrating in the streets in other countries because gay people were beaten to death.

But we need to be careful that we don’t also transfer our hatred for homophobia and intolerance and arrogance onto people. If we start hating people like Comiskey then we turn into monsters.

It starts when we begin to believe that those who disagree with us are monsters.

I’m sure you have seen that at BTB it’s one of our themes that we try very hard not to assign those who disagree a monster suit – though we do expose those who have already had one tailer made.

I’m not challenging your credentials. While Comiskey is not a rural Mississippi Southern Baptist (he’s a California charismatic), you are more than capable of translating churchspeak.

(a side note to StraightGrandmother: You may be unaware, but I was raised in the parsonage of a Pentecostal Church of God pastor. We believed that while the people at the Assembly of God were a bit too lienient and liberal, they were better than the downright worldly Southern Baptists. While Zeke “would surely know”, I think credentials hold up pretty well.)

And I don’t think we are saying different things. I’m not disagreeing with your interpretation – just with how others will read your interpretation.

You and I know that this is not a personal form of animus like racism in which someone might hate a person on sight due to their race. Rather it’s more like an opposition to socialism or to liberalism.

But that might not be clear to others.

The form of homophobia that hates homosexuals and would like to see them “wiped out” exists. That’s not what Comiskey is.

Rather, he’s the type that “loves you” (it’s how he would see it) and wants to talk you out of your sinful way. True he doesn’t see you as a friend or neighbor, but it isn’t exactly the same as the secular idea of enemy. He sees us more as a mission field, some person to be converted. If we don’t choose to convert, we might become willful sinners rejecting God and doing the will of our father Satan.

But he doesn’t see us as enemies in the sense that the secular use of that word generally conveys. He would never want us physically hurt or (so he would believe) mistreated or (again, what he would believe) to be denied “the same rights every other individual has including the right to marry someone of the opposite sex”.

I think that we have to be careful not to think in cartoon bubbles, or else we only end up denying ourselves the wisdom and perspective we need to win.

Mike Goeke doesn’t understand. A homosexual will never love someone of the opposite sex like a heterosexual can.