Comments on: Did Grenell Jump or Was He Pushed?

By: Hyhybt

Hyhybt — Fri, 04 May 2012 09:39:23 +0000

Many of the *overall* best people I know are in the fundamentalist end of Christianity.* They just have… a blind spot, essentially, and we’re in it.

*You don’t get much further that way than Hard-Shell Primitive Baptist.

By: jerry

jerry — Fri, 04 May 2012 06:58:13 +0000

I have no doubt that it was the Christian right wing that was responsible for Grenell’s firing. Let’s be honest, the resignation was the effort of the good underling to protect his boss. I am reminded of Congressman Kolbe who spoke at the 2000 convention. I don’t remember the topic of the speech but it had nothing to do with gay rights in anyway, yet the right wing haters stood and turned their backs to him and now we find out that Grenell was told not to even speak on a conference call that he had organized.

The people who organized this attack on Grenell label themselves Christian fundamentalists or evangelicals. I take them at their word and as long as the people who identify with the leaders I have to consider them my enemies who will slay me if they get the chance.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Fri, 04 May 2012 06:49:14 +0000

Alex

No, (he says in his best Carol Channing voice) That’s Entertainment!

…

Which reminds me of the time that I went to the Hollywood Bowl to see the LA Philharmonic back up Pink Martini (always a sold out show).

Well that night they were honoring ancient people or something and they had Carol Channing and some really old Caribbean French guy. They thought they’d do an impromptu That’s Entertainment and passed out the words to the ancients on stage.

The French dude couldn’t see well so Carol was helping him with the words.

“The world is a shtaaazj… no, a SHTAAAZJ”

By: AlexH

AlexH — Fri, 04 May 2012 00:15:55 +0000

Reading the exchange between Timothy and Priya was so engrossing that I forgot what the original topic was about.

Now that’s communication.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Thu, 03 May 2012 22:39:51 +0000

Well then we are in agreement. Indeed there are some fundamentalist Christians with some pretty frightful beliefs. No doubt about it.

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Thu, 03 May 2012 21:44:03 +0000

I’ll concede that to you Timothy, I should have specified “some fundamentalist christians” believe instead of stating “fundamentalist christians” believe.

Its ironic that you say you need to take a break because “the criticism has become very personal in nature and very hurtful”, that its “personal abuse”
and then you call me a bigot. Has it ever occurred to that what goes around comes around?

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Thu, 03 May 2012 21:23:00 +0000

I should add that we all know some fundamentalists have called for gays to be executed (and Timothy found none of those available quotes) so its hardly a stretch to think some believe gays should be denied jobs and housing unless they repent.

Oh… we’re talking about some.

Kinda like “some homosexuals are pedophiles, some black people are criminals, some Mexicans are lazy, some Jews cheat in business, some Irish are alcoholics, and some atheists are really just people who hate God”.

Good ol’ some, the last refuge of bigots.

But as I’m on hiatus, I’ll let you have the last word.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Thu, 03 May 2012 21:08:31 +0000

Oh…. okay, so they really all SECRETLY think no gay should be allowed a job or place to live until they repent.

got it…

I think I’ll just stick with Occam

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Thu, 03 May 2012 20:48:48 +0000

Timothy said “Rick Santorum – not exactly a fundamentalist Christian, but surely an extreme reflection of the most adamantly anti-gay attitudes…”.

LOL, you MUST be kidding:

http://minnesotaindependent.com/58393/gop-linked-punk-rock-ministry-says-executing-gays-is-moral

http://news.change.org/stories/kansas-high-school-newspaper-says-it-s-moral-to-execute-gays

http://atheism.about.com/b/2007/11/09/jim-rudd-on-gays-arrest-imprison-and-execute-gays-in-the-name-of-god.htm

That you would say Santorum is “an extreme reflection of the most adamantly anti-gay attitudes” clearly demonstrates how severely you’re trying to slant this issue.

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Thu, 03 May 2012 20:38:53 +0000

I should add that we all know some fundamentalists have called for gays to be executed (and Timothy found none of those available quotes) so its hardly a stretch to think some believe gays should be denied jobs and housing unless they repent.