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		<title>By: DenguyFL</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/05/09/44250/comment-page-1#comment-123349</link>
		<dc:creator>DenguyFL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 15:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we can be forced to testify against our partners, cannot adopt (as of his latest position stated yesterday), get taxed unfairly in a variety of ways (income tax, inheritances tax, taxes on DP benefits ans plenty more), Be allowed to move with our partners that are in the military ... how long do I have to go on with this list?

Mitt, please go through the list of 1138 federal benefits and let us know which ones are appropriate in your view. After you do that go through the benefits afforded married people by each state individually and let us know about those too. This will be a never-ending task for you since you will be taking literally thousands of positions that you will be forced to flip flop on when you hear from your overlords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we can be forced to testify against our partners, cannot adopt (as of his latest position stated yesterday), get taxed unfairly in a variety of ways (income tax, inheritances tax, taxes on DP benefits ans plenty more), Be allowed to move with our partners that are in the military &#8230; how long do I have to go on with this list?</p>
<p>Mitt, please go through the list of 1138 federal benefits and let us know which ones are appropriate in your view. After you do that go through the benefits afforded married people by each state individually and let us know about those too. This will be a never-ending task for you since you will be taking literally thousands of positions that you will be forced to flip flop on when you hear from your overlords.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 14:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, is Romney saying, &lt;i&gt;&quot;In my view, pairs of gays cannot be civilized, and certainly not married, but they can probably be domesticated, which would include such benefits as going to the vet together, and the like. That would be appropriate.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, is Romney saying, <i>&#8220;In my view, pairs of gays cannot be civilized, and certainly not married, but they can probably be domesticated, which would include such benefits as going to the vet together, and the like. That would be appropriate.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: anteros</title>
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		<dc:creator>anteros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 06:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I do not favor marriage between people of the same gender, and I do not favor civil unions if they are identical to marriage other than by name,” Romney said during a visit to Fort Lupton. “My view is the domestic partnership benefits, hospital visitation rights, and the like are appropriate but that the others are not.”

“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann...

Romney still feels that he&#039;s entitled to decide how people should live their lives, and looks at the rest of us from an arrogant position of assumed privilege that comes at the expense of &quot;others&quot;.

...imagine the things presidents would do and actually do, knowing they can get away with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I do not favor marriage between people of the same gender, and I do not favor civil unions if they are identical to marriage other than by name,” Romney said during a visit to Fort Lupton. “My view is the domestic partnership benefits, hospital visitation rights, and the like are appropriate but that the others are not.”</p>
<p>“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann&#8230;</p>
<p>Romney still feels that he&#8217;s entitled to decide how people should live their lives, and looks at the rest of us from an arrogant position of assumed privilege that comes at the expense of &#8220;others&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8230;imagine the things presidents would do and actually do, knowing they can get away with it.</p>
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		<title>By: anteros</title>
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		<dc:creator>anteros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 05:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I do not favor marriage between people of the same gender, and I do not favor civil unions if they are identical to marriage other than by name,” Romney said during a visit to Fort Lupton. “My view is the domestic partnership benefits, hospital visitation rights, and the like are appropriate but that the others are not.”

Wow. That sounds like an opinion from apartheid South Africa... shameless discrimination, willful ignorance, deciding what are appropriate limits for &quot;others&quot; in the enjoyment of their rights, disregarding all differing opinions/reasoning with more merit... dude could easily be a misogynist and or racist too... trying to make discrimination sound justifiable, like South Africa&#039;s last white president recently sugar coating apartheid on CNN and feeling elevated enough to decide what qualified as fair treatment for black South Africans who he shockingly claims were not disenfranchised by apartheid... totally unacceptable, not just in 2012.

There are those who stubbornly refuse to evolve, and like my elderly neighbor discovered - holding on to discrimination while the rest of the world evolves has a high cost - I pitied him but he was more comfortable living in his own stale bubble of discrimination and he even attempted marketing it to others rather than moving on and living in the present.

May Romney and all others who are against equality suffer the kind of isolation and loneliness that would force them to evolve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I do not favor marriage between people of the same gender, and I do not favor civil unions if they are identical to marriage other than by name,” Romney said during a visit to Fort Lupton. “My view is the domestic partnership benefits, hospital visitation rights, and the like are appropriate but that the others are not.”</p>
<p>Wow. That sounds like an opinion from apartheid South Africa&#8230; shameless discrimination, willful ignorance, deciding what are appropriate limits for &#8220;others&#8221; in the enjoyment of their rights, disregarding all differing opinions/reasoning with more merit&#8230; dude could easily be a misogynist and or racist too&#8230; trying to make discrimination sound justifiable, like South Africa&#8217;s last white president recently sugar coating apartheid on CNN and feeling elevated enough to decide what qualified as fair treatment for black South Africans who he shockingly claims were not disenfranchised by apartheid&#8230; totally unacceptable, not just in 2012.</p>
<p>There are those who stubbornly refuse to evolve, and like my elderly neighbor discovered &#8211; holding on to discrimination while the rest of the world evolves has a high cost &#8211; I pitied him but he was more comfortable living in his own stale bubble of discrimination and he even attempted marketing it to others rather than moving on and living in the present.</p>
<p>May Romney and all others who are against equality suffer the kind of isolation and loneliness that would force them to evolve</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 02:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is some discord in Mormon circles about gay equality.  So I thought (as long-shot) a Steve Young-type Mormon would be able to soften Romney&#039;s rhetoric on gay marriage.   You would think somewhere in the vast Romney clan there would be someone gay and show how it&#039;s not about bad parenting but just some of us come naturally as gay.  

But, alas, Romney is pandering to AFA-types.  Just for the votes.   

High-stakes politics can make some people do weird things.  One takes nebulous actions to further his campaign and the other finally owns up to doing the honorable thing.  

This is an historic day.  One part of Obama&#039;s legacy will now be forever etched (and not sketched) in the history books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some discord in Mormon circles about gay equality.  So I thought (as long-shot) a Steve Young-type Mormon would be able to soften Romney&#8217;s rhetoric on gay marriage.   You would think somewhere in the vast Romney clan there would be someone gay and show how it&#8217;s not about bad parenting but just some of us come naturally as gay.  </p>
<p>But, alas, Romney is pandering to AFA-types.  Just for the votes.   </p>
<p>High-stakes politics can make some people do weird things.  One takes nebulous actions to further his campaign and the other finally owns up to doing the honorable thing.  </p>
<p>This is an historic day.  One part of Obama&#8217;s legacy will now be forever etched (and not sketched) in the history books.</p>
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		<title>By: DN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 22:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to ask Mitt to enumerate exactly *which* &quot;other&quot; benefits are not appropriate?

For example, is it appropriate to tax a gay widower into the ground as he &quot;inherits&quot; the home he and his now-deceased spouse built together?

Is it appropriate to tax the gay widower&#039;s &quot;inheritence&quot; as he is not the spouse of the deceased?

Is it appropriate to withhold Social Security payments from gay widowers?

Pray, Mitt, tell us exactly which benefits you want believe should be withheld from grieving f----ts.

Because, I promise you, marriage benefits are great while both people are alive.  But they&#039;re *NECESSARY* when one  of us dies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to ask Mitt to enumerate exactly *which* &#8220;other&#8221; benefits are not appropriate?</p>
<p>For example, is it appropriate to tax a gay widower into the ground as he &#8220;inherits&#8221; the home he and his now-deceased spouse built together?</p>
<p>Is it appropriate to tax the gay widower&#8217;s &#8220;inheritence&#8221; as he is not the spouse of the deceased?</p>
<p>Is it appropriate to withhold Social Security payments from gay widowers?</p>
<p>Pray, Mitt, tell us exactly which benefits you want believe should be withheld from grieving f&#8212;-ts.</p>
<p>Because, I promise you, marriage benefits are great while both people are alive.  But they&#8217;re *NECESSARY* when one  of us dies.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/05/09/44250/comment-page-1#comment-123081</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 22:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reps in CO have been trumped by the Governor. I called the governor&#039;s office this afternoon. Hickenlooper has announced that he is call for special legislation to have all the bills heard.
My take is he is trying to keep his promise to the LGBT community here. Here&#039;s the announcement from a local station.http://www.krdo.com/news/31037396/detail.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reps in CO have been trumped by the Governor. I called the governor&#8217;s office this afternoon. Hickenlooper has announced that he is call for special legislation to have all the bills heard.<br />
My take is he is trying to keep his promise to the LGBT community here. Here&#8217;s the announcement from a local station.<a href="http://www.krdo.com/news/31037396/detail.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.krdo.com/news/31037396/detail.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 21:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Mitt elaborated on how Civil Unions and Marriage should differ? What gets withheld from &quot;marriage lite&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Mitt elaborated on how Civil Unions and Marriage should differ? What gets withheld from &#8220;marriage lite&#8221;?</p>
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