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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/05/21/44680/comment-page-1#comment-124147</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 17:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F Young,

Memorial Day is next Monday, May 28th.

&lt;i&gt;So, it appears that you are more accurate than the New York Times, which said Ravi was found guilty of the 15 bias intimidation charges.&lt;/i&gt;

And they are paid to report the news.  It&#039;s kinda sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F Young,</p>
<p>Memorial Day is next Monday, May 28th.</p>
<p><i>So, it appears that you are more accurate than the New York Times, which said Ravi was found guilty of the 15 bias intimidation charges.</i></p>
<p>And they are paid to report the news.  It&#8217;s kinda sad.</p>
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		<title>By: F Young</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/05/21/44680/comment-page-1#comment-124057</link>
		<dc:creator>F Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 17:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Huffington Post, Ravi was sentenced to 30 days jail time, slated to start on May 31. 

In addition, &quot;...Berman ordered Ravi to receive three years of probation, perform 300 hours of community service, undergo counseling and pay a $10,000 fine that will go to an organization providing assistance to victims of bias crimes.&quot;

&quot;The judge also recommended that Ravi not be deported.&quot; 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/21/dharun-ravi-sentenced-to-_n_1532614.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Huffington Post, Ravi was sentenced to 30 days jail time, slated to start on May 31. </p>
<p>In addition, &#8220;&#8230;Berman ordered Ravi to receive three years of probation, perform 300 hours of community service, undergo counseling and pay a $10,000 fine that will go to an organization providing assistance to victims of bias crimes.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The judge also recommended that Ravi not be deported.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/21/dharun-ravi-sentenced-to-_n_1532614.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/21/dharun-ravi-sentenced-to-_n_1532614.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: F Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>F Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 16:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link. So, it appears that you are more accurate than the New York Times, which said Ravi was found guilty of the 15 bias intimidation charges.

I assumed you were out because of the Memorial Day weekend, which is supposed to be a paid holiday.

Thanks for the update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link. So, it appears that you are more accurate than the New York Times, which said Ravi was found guilty of the 15 bias intimidation charges.</p>
<p>I assumed you were out because of the Memorial Day weekend, which is supposed to be a paid holiday.</p>
<p>Thanks for the update.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 16:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F Young, 

I found this  breakdown of charges and verdicts. 

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/ravi_webcam_trial_verdict.html

He was found not guilty for elevenr of fifteen bias counts. I have updated the post accordingly and apologize for the error.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Since the editors appear to be out on this holiday in the USA...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We have full time jobs. Sorry if we can&#039;t jump every time someone tries to comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F Young, </p>
<p>I found this  breakdown of charges and verdicts. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/ravi_webcam_trial_verdict.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/ravi_webcam_trial_verdict.html</a></p>
<p>He was found not guilty for elevenr of fifteen bias counts. I have updated the post accordingly and apologize for the error.</p>
<blockquote><p>Since the editors appear to be out on this holiday in the USA&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>We have full time jobs. Sorry if we can&#8217;t jump every time someone tries to comment.</p>
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		<title>By: F Young</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/05/21/44680/comment-page-1#comment-124049</link>
		<dc:creator>F Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 15:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(continuation 3)

Here are status updates from USAToday:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/sentencing-hearing-this-morning-in-rutgers-suicide-case/1

There is a twitter feed compilation on the sentencing hearing here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/21/dharun-ravi-sentence_n_1532771.html

I am impressed by the sheer amount of national coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(continuation 3)</p>
<p>Here are status updates from USAToday:<br />
<a href="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/sentencing-hearing-this-morning-in-rutgers-suicide-case/1" rel="nofollow">http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/sentencing-hearing-this-morning-in-rutgers-suicide-case/1</a></p>
<p>There is a twitter feed compilation on the sentencing hearing here:<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/21/dharun-ravi-sentence_n_1532771.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/21/dharun-ravi-sentence_n_1532771.html</a></p>
<p>I am impressed by the sheer amount of national coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: F Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>F Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 15:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(continuation 2)
 
The sentencing hearing is reportedly being broadcast live on ABC.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/rutgers-trial-dharun-ravi-make-statement-sentencing/story?id=16394014
 
This is live commentary at TruTV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxI7F-cLAEs
 
This is live video from the New York Times:
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/21/former-rutgers-student-to-be-sentenced-in-hate-crime/

(continued)</description>
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<p>The sentencing hearing is reportedly being broadcast live on ABC.<br />
<a href="http://abcnews.go.com/US/rutgers-trial-dharun-ravi-make-statement-sentencing/story?id=16394014" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/US/rutgers-trial-dharun-ravi-make-statement-sentencing/story?id=16394014</a></p>
<p>This is live commentary at TruTV:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxI7F-cLAEs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxI7F-cLAEs</a></p>
<p>This is live video from the New York Times:<br />
<a href="http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/21/former-rutgers-student-to-be-sentenced-in-hate-crime/" rel="nofollow">http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/21/former-rutgers-student-to-be-sentenced-in-hate-crime/</a></p>
<p>(continued)</p>
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		<title>By: F Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>F Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 14:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(continuation)

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/21/nyregion/Some-Gay-Rights-Advocates-Question-Rutgers-Sentencing.html?pagewanted=1&amp;_r=2&amp;hp (page 1)

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/16/justice/new-jersey-rutgers-trial/index.html
 
Could anyone suggest an explanation why Jim characterized the verdict differently on this point?
 
I know this seems like a rather tall and tardy order, but I hadn’t noticed the discrepancy until now.
 
I think it would be helpful for us to strive for some basic agreement on the verdict before discussing the appropriateness of the sentence. 

Even in the best case scenario, I expect that the sentence will lead to a lengthy discussion based in large part on how we characterize the verdict.
 
Has this already been explained elsewhere? Or can anyone refer me to somebody else’s article on this point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(continuation)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/21/nyregion/Some-Gay-Rights-Advocates-Question-Rutgers-Sentencing.html?pagewanted=1&#038;_r=2&#038;hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/21/nyregion/Some-Gay-Rights-Advocates-Question-Rutgers-Sentencing.html?pagewanted=1&#038;_r=2&#038;hp</a> (page 1)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/16/justice/new-jersey-rutgers-trial/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/16/justice/new-jersey-rutgers-trial/index.html</a></p>
<p>Could anyone suggest an explanation why Jim characterized the verdict differently on this point?</p>
<p>I know this seems like a rather tall and tardy order, but I hadn’t noticed the discrepancy until now.</p>
<p>I think it would be helpful for us to strive for some basic agreement on the verdict before discussing the appropriateness of the sentence. </p>
<p>Even in the best case scenario, I expect that the sentence will lead to a lengthy discussion based in large part on how we characterize the verdict.</p>
<p>Has this already been explained elsewhere? Or can anyone refer me to somebody else’s article on this point?</p>
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		<title>By: customartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>customartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 14:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Straights harrass Gays to the point of extreme distress, and THEN they blame Gays.

This misplaced blame has become glaringly transparent.

Ravi&#039;s actions lead to Tyler&#039;s distress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Straights harrass Gays to the point of extreme distress, and THEN they blame Gays.</p>
<p>This misplaced blame has become glaringly transparent.</p>
<p>Ravi&#8217;s actions lead to Tyler&#8217;s distress.</p>
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		<title>By: F Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>F Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 14:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the editors appear to be out on this holiday in the USA, and my original comment was hung up in the moderation queue due to length, I&#039;ll repost in two parts to get the discussion going on a preliminary point:

“…was convicted in March of …but was found innocent of bias intimidation.”
 
Sorry to bring this up at the last minute, but I notice that Jim maintains that Dharun Ravi was found NOT guilty of the bias intimidation charges, as Jim originally wrote in:
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/03/16/42891
 
However, everything I have read elsewhere says that Ravi was found guilty of most of the serious (or in some reports, simply all the) bias intimidation charges:
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2116006/Dharun-Ravi-trial-verdict-Tyler-Clementis-lover-speaks-Rutgers-student-guilty-spying.html
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/nyregion/defendant-guilty-in-rutgers-case.html?pagewanted=all
 
(continued)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the editors appear to be out on this holiday in the USA, and my original comment was hung up in the moderation queue due to length, I&#8217;ll repost in two parts to get the discussion going on a preliminary point:</p>
<p>“…was convicted in March of …but was found innocent of bias intimidation.”</p>
<p>Sorry to bring this up at the last minute, but I notice that Jim maintains that Dharun Ravi was found NOT guilty of the bias intimidation charges, as Jim originally wrote in:<br />
<a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/03/16/42891" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/03/16/42891</a></p>
<p>However, everything I have read elsewhere says that Ravi was found guilty of most of the serious (or in some reports, simply all the) bias intimidation charges:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2116006/Dharun-Ravi-trial-verdict-Tyler-Clementis-lover-speaks-Rutgers-student-guilty-spying.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2116006/Dharun-Ravi-trial-verdict-Tyler-Clementis-lover-speaks-Rutgers-student-guilty-spying.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/nyregion/defendant-guilty-in-rutgers-case.html?pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/nyregion/defendant-guilty-in-rutgers-case.html?pagewanted=all</a></p>
<p>(continued)</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 14:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;During the same period, he was on the front lines of the battle to get the APA to remove homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. The federal ban on hiring gay people was finally lifted in 1975.&quot;  Amazing that there was a federal ban in place until 1975 on hiring gays.  Are you sure that is right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;During the same period, he was on the front lines of the battle to get the APA to remove homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. The federal ban on hiring gay people was finally lifted in 1975.&#8221;  Amazing that there was a federal ban in place until 1975 on hiring gays.  Are you sure that is right?</p>
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