I just ask that these groups stop lying about gay people and stop supporting discrimination.

I was managed out of a congregation due to their insistence that I re-undergo a reparative style therapy. Will the average church that relied on the change message from Exodus pause to re-think?

The collapse of the reparative hegemony is evident, but the culture likely moves slowly.

The rest seems in line with Chambers’s recent statements, with additional semantic padding.

That said, Aaron’s point is well-taken -(queer kids could wind up being farmed out to “religious counselors”).
Regan’s point (the constant lies, evasions, and compounded guilt) really struck close to the bone.

That…was….profound.

The irony of ironies, using the word ‘struggle’ with homosexuality, while denying the struggle to carry the burden of deceit.

What I want to see, is some real honesty about a ROUTINELY accepting society, and what that would do about truth.
A straight person not held accountable or deceived into believing they can change a gay person, and a gay person who can be free of the same burden WOULD be damn refreshing.

The veil that Exodus has been using, is growing thinner and a bit more diaphanous, but I was impatient a LONG time ago, with them using a veil at all.
I absolutely, cannot stand the indifference of religious communities, to when they become a LIABILITY to a community. Whether it’s someone who chose to be religious or not.
That is quite unforgivable, and what’s so sociopathic about some religious people.

Any real analysis of whether Exodus is changing from an ex-gay model to a celibacy model will have to be done at the member ministry level, NOT at the umbrella level.

Exodus has no concept of “change is possible” as they prove once again when they open their manipulative lying mouths amplified through their warped and ill bred flock-shock business.

The only change we will ever see with Exodus is when outside sources I.e. financial failure shut them down. They do not have the courage nor the dignity to tell the truth nor stop the persecution. They falsely live under a Judaic god of manipulation and negative mind control. They are a cult trading dollars on guilt.

They are a disgrace to Christ and what he stood for and a disgrace to humanity which Christ serves. They only live to make Christ’s job more difficult.