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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 22:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian,

I wondered if someone would notice that I specified Japanese.  I&#039;m going by his eyes, which look Japanese to me.  He just doesn&#039;t look Chinese - thou in profile I can see a bit of Korean. 

Yeah - I&#039;m totally  basing it on &quot;what he looks like&quot;.  But I suppose that&#039;s ok in a comic book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,</p>
<p>I wondered if someone would notice that I specified Japanese.  I&#8217;m going by his eyes, which look Japanese to me.  He just doesn&#8217;t look Chinese &#8211; thou in profile I can see a bit of Korean. </p>
<p>Yeah &#8211; I&#8217;m totally  basing it on &#8220;what he looks like&#8221;.  But I suppose that&#8217;s ok in a comic book.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 22:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The backstory:

The DC universe just went through a restructuring. As I understand it, it&#039;s a bit of a do-over, in which their heroes&#039; story lines go back to the beginning but set in today&#039;s time instead of the 40s. (apologies to comic geeks if I got that wrong). 

Part of going back in the Green Lantern story makes Alan Scott too young to have a superhero son, so Obsidian had to be cut. And as Obsidian was gay, that left them without a gay superhero at a time in which they are trying to be more diverse. 

Someone at some tradeshow panel suggested making Alan Scott/Green Lantern gay instead, and the idea stuck. 

We want inclusion. When we get it, it could be seen as a sop or a token. I prefer to see it as inclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The backstory:</p>
<p>The DC universe just went through a restructuring. As I understand it, it&#8217;s a bit of a do-over, in which their heroes&#8217; story lines go back to the beginning but set in today&#8217;s time instead of the 40s. (apologies to comic geeks if I got that wrong). </p>
<p>Part of going back in the Green Lantern story makes Alan Scott too young to have a superhero son, so Obsidian had to be cut. And as Obsidian was gay, that left them without a gay superhero at a time in which they are trying to be more diverse. </p>
<p>Someone at some tradeshow panel suggested making Alan Scott/Green Lantern gay instead, and the idea stuck. </p>
<p>We want inclusion. When we get it, it could be seen as a sop or a token. I prefer to see it as inclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Neon Genesis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neon Genesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 23:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo, that should be marketing ploy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo, that should be marketing ploy.</p>
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		<title>By: Neon Genesis</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/06/01/45187/comment-page-1#comment-125076</link>
		<dc:creator>Neon Genesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 23:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s hardly a “sop to the gay crowd” — it’s DC playing catch-up. Marvel has a number of gay characters, some of whom has been around since the early ’90s.&quot;

Of course Japanese comics have been including LGBT characters even longer than that and there&#039;s even entire genres of Japanese comics devoted exclusively to gay and lesbian romance stories.  Having said that, I think this would only count as a sop if DC merely made this announcement and then did nothing with the character&#039;s sexuality in a storyline at all, a la JK Rowling.  If in a few months DC does absolutely nothing with the Green Lantern&#039;s sexuality in a comic book, we&#039;ll know then that it was just a marketing plot.  Having said that, I&#039;m glad it&#039;s the Green Lantern they revealed to be gay and not someone the mainstream public wouldn&#039;t know a thing about, like Plastic Man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s hardly a “sop to the gay crowd” — it’s DC playing catch-up. Marvel has a number of gay characters, some of whom has been around since the early ’90s.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course Japanese comics have been including LGBT characters even longer than that and there&#8217;s even entire genres of Japanese comics devoted exclusively to gay and lesbian romance stories.  Having said that, I think this would only count as a sop if DC merely made this announcement and then did nothing with the character&#8217;s sexuality in a storyline at all, a la JK Rowling.  If in a few months DC does absolutely nothing with the Green Lantern&#8217;s sexuality in a comic book, we&#8217;ll know then that it was just a marketing plot.  Having said that, I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s the Green Lantern they revealed to be gay and not someone the mainstream public wouldn&#8217;t know a thing about, like Plastic Man.</p>
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		<title>By: Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 16:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, Thom Creed of &quot;Hero&quot; languishes in Stan Lee&#039;s development limbo . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, Thom Creed of &#8220;Hero&#8221; languishes in Stan Lee&#8217;s development limbo . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 14:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More chinese than japanese... afterall, they live in hong kong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More chinese than japanese&#8230; afterall, they live in hong kong.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 14:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s not exactly new for DC. Just having a gay *male* main character. In other series Kate Kane/Batwoman, Maggie Sawyer and Rene Montoya/The Question are lesbians and there are some other minor LGTB characters here and there. Batwoman has her own series now - though it focuses way too much on the supernatural for my taste.

&quot;Gotham Central&quot; has a great four-parter called &#039;Half a Life&#039; in which Montoya is outed and has to deal with her friends and family afterwards. It won multiple awards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s not exactly new for DC. Just having a gay *male* main character. In other series Kate Kane/Batwoman, Maggie Sawyer and Rene Montoya/The Question are lesbians and there are some other minor LGTB characters here and there. Batwoman has her own series now &#8211; though it focuses way too much on the supernatural for my taste.</p>
<p>&#8220;Gotham Central&#8221; has a great four-parter called &#8216;Half a Life&#8217; in which Montoya is outed and has to deal with her friends and family afterwards. It won multiple awards.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thought, re &quot;pandering&quot; -- if you want to see pandering in the comics industry, look at Japan:  manga is hugely fan-driven.  Artists will even develop story lines and characters based on fan input, especially in boys&#039; love manga.

(And it occurs to me that if the perennially clueless OMM ever get wind of that genre, their knickers will get so twisted that they won&#039;t have any circulation below the waist.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thought, re &#8220;pandering&#8221; &#8212; if you want to see pandering in the comics industry, look at Japan:  manga is hugely fan-driven.  Artists will even develop story lines and characters based on fan input, especially in boys&#8217; love manga.</p>
<p>(And it occurs to me that if the perennially clueless OMM ever get wind of that genre, their knickers will get so twisted that they won&#8217;t have any circulation below the waist.)</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hardly a &quot;sop to the gay crowd&quot; -- it&#039;s DC playing catch-up.  Marvel has a number of gay characters, some of whom has been around since the early &#039;90s.

And, given that popular culture reflects attitudes, I&#039;d say it&#039;s DC finally recognizing that we&#039;re everywhere.  If they want to cash in -- well, publishing is a business, whether you&#039;re publishing romance novels or comics.  Whether you consider Green Lantern a &quot;biggie&quot; or not, it&#039;s an attempt worth encouraging.  I&#039;m going to have to add Earth 2 to X-Factor, Young Avengers, and Astonishing X-Men on my &quot;keep up with this&quot; list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hardly a &#8220;sop to the gay crowd&#8221; &#8212; it&#8217;s DC playing catch-up.  Marvel has a number of gay characters, some of whom has been around since the early &#8217;90s.</p>
<p>And, given that popular culture reflects attitudes, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s DC finally recognizing that we&#8217;re everywhere.  If they want to cash in &#8212; well, publishing is a business, whether you&#8217;re publishing romance novels or comics.  Whether you consider Green Lantern a &#8220;biggie&#8221; or not, it&#8217;s an attempt worth encouraging.  I&#8217;m going to have to add Earth 2 to X-Factor, Young Avengers, and Astonishing X-Men on my &#8220;keep up with this&#8221; list.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hyhybt, no this is a pre-existing character recycled to pander to the zeitgeist.  Not only that, there&#039;s a bunch of him, apparently, so he&#039;s not the &quot;real&quot; GL.  Yep, we got a spare character.  

Ben - I&#039;ve already told my hubby that yes, I would leave him for Ryan Reynolds.  He responded that, in fact, I&#039;d better bring him along. 

Brian - I think you may have a point in that I may be reacting to the comic book houses expecting some kind of credit when they do this.  It feels like a throw-away stunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyhybt, no this is a pre-existing character recycled to pander to the zeitgeist.  Not only that, there&#8217;s a bunch of him, apparently, so he&#8217;s not the &#8220;real&#8221; GL.  Yep, we got a spare character.  </p>
<p>Ben &#8211; I&#8217;ve already told my hubby that yes, I would leave him for Ryan Reynolds.  He responded that, in fact, I&#8217;d better bring him along. </p>
<p>Brian &#8211; I think you may have a point in that I may be reacting to the comic book houses expecting some kind of credit when they do this.  It feels like a throw-away stunt.</p>
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